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[amigov6]

Remember, before the media blew this up, as they do, there were 2 complaints made, and this was for bad language.

Somebody should sack the media who seem to be all powerful, and not answerable to anyone.

Yes ...it is all over the front pages of the "gutter press" and sadly even the "adult" newspapers have jumped on the bandwagon.
A mistake sure...but lets get this into perspective....no one has died and there are far worse things going on in the world as I type this.....time to move on.

At last the voice of reason speaks. It's a minor story relatively speaking.

[pete.h]

If only a few people who see something complain about it, does that mean there is nothing to complain about ?

I shouldn't think many people who attended the Nazi rallies complained much, but most of the rest of the world did , eventually.

I'm not really comparing Ross and Brand to the Nazis , but I think the insidious effect that this sort of behaviour has ,  is underestimated.

[TheBoy]

If only a few people who see something complain about it, does that mean there is nothing to complain about ?

I shouldn't think many people who attended the Nazi rallies complained much, but most of the rest of the world did , eventually.

I'm not really comparing Ross and Brand to the Nazis , but I think the insidious effect that this sort of behaviour has ,  is underestimated.

This was a non-story before media started...

[albitz]

Its their job to inform us if our money is being spent on this kind of thing.

[amigov6]

Its their job to inform us if our money is being spent on this kind of thing.

I don't think we needed anyone to tell us that, does'nt take much working out really does it? Do you write to points of view?
    Love the Bob Dylan subterranean homesick blues though The pumps don't work 'cos the vandals took the handles!!!!

[TheBoy]

I detest Brand, and find Ross tedious - sometimes funny, mostly a bit predictable.

But, I would still rather watch them than knobenders and such dross.

[Andyswad]

Ross has his moments if a good guest is on but Brand...total unfunny tosser.

Brand was good when on drugs on MTV interviewing pillheads but that was a long time ago...

[Nickbat]

Remember, before the media blew this up, as they do, there were 2 complaints made, and this was for bad language.

Somebody should sack the media who seem to be all powerful, and not answerable to anyone.

Yes ...it is all over the front pages of the "gutter press" and sadly even the "adult" newspapers have jumped on the bandwagon.
A mistake sure...but lets get this into perspective....no one has died and there are far worse things going on in the world as I type this.....time to move on.

At last the voice of reason speaks. It's a minor story relatively speaking.

Yes, it is a relatively minor story, but it nevertheless tells us a lot about society and therefore it is quite big. Many threads here on OOF originate from acts of mindlessness, especially by youngsters. When that happens, there is an outpouring of indignation, and quite rightly in my view.

What we have here are two celebrities who, it would seem, are held in high regard by younger audiences. I have seen and heard a number of younger people say "It was funny" (therefore no problem); it was "pushing the boundaries" (therefore no problem); "there are bigger things going in the world" (therefore no problem). The fact that these two clowns broke many moral codes by their actions meant that this was actually quite a defining moment in broadcasting history. Should the BBC have given unqualified support? Should they (and maybe will) sack them? The BBC has found itself in difficult position and, belatedly, has decided to come down hard. There are moral boundaries, across which these two went. That's good news since, in a small way, it is sending the signal that, despite the youthful desire for "edginess" and "no boundaries", there is still a semblance of morality within the general public. Without such a morality, we would have a feral society.

After all, if a kid ran across your Mig, denting the bonnet and roof and he and twenty mates then said to you "Why should I apologise? It was funny". Would you honestly say. "Yeah, you're right, kids, it was edgy stuff and anyway I'm more worried about the recession"?    

[TheBoy]

The BBC have now no option whether or not to sack/let them resign.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs, the media have ensured there is no other outcome.  Thats wrong.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Remember, before the media blew this up, as they do, there were 2 complaints made, and this was for bad language.

Somebody should sack the media who seem to be all powerful, and not answerable to anyone.

Yes ...it is all over the front pages of the "gutter press" and sadly even the "adult" newspapers have jumped on the bandwagon.
A mistake sure...but lets get this into perspective....no one has died and there are far worse things going on in the world as I type this.....time to move on.

At last the voice of reason speaks. It's a minor story relatively speaking.

Yes, it is a relatively minor story, but it nevertheless tells us a lot about society and therefore it is quite big. Many threads here on OOF originate from acts of mindlessness, especially by youngsters. When that happens, there is an outpouring of indignation, and quite rightly in my view.

What we have here are two celebrities who, it would seem, are held in high regard by younger audiences. I have seen and heard a number of younger people say "It was funny" (therefore no problem); it was "pushing the boundaries" (therefore no problem); "there are bigger things going in the world" (therefore no problem). The fact that these two clowns broke many moral codes by their actions meant that this was actually quite a defining moment in broadcasting history. Should the BBC have given unqualified support? Should they (and maybe will) sack them? The BBC has found itself in difficult position and, belatedly, has decided to come down hard. There are moral boundaries, across which these two went. That's good news since, in a small way, it is sending the signal that, despite the youthful desire for "edginess" and "no boundaries", there is still a semblance of morality within the general public. Without such a morality, we would have a feral society.

After all, if a kid ran across your Mig, denting the bonnet and roof and he and twenty mates then said to you "Why should I apologise? It was funny". Would you honestly say. "Yeah, you're right, kids, it was edgy stuff and anyway I'm more worried about the recession"?    

Absolutely spot on Nickbat!

[Martin_1962]

Stuff htem two what about David Tennant needing replacing at Doctor Who

[amigov6]

Sorry Martin, not a Dr. Who fan so don't care but Chris Moyles suggested (amongst others) Christopher Biggins which i found funny for some reason & it could work?

  Nickbat:- Hold onto your hat..... i agree with your Omega bonnet comparison about what's important to some etc.... fair go.

 Ross has been suspended without pay for a sum totalling 1.4 1.5 million. Do the Beeb keep this money as a saving?
  Maybe it should go to charities of the Sachs family's choice? That would bring some closure. 8-)

[Turk]

Long overdue. They both needed bringing down to earth. Ross can be entertaining, but usually at the cost of others. Certainly not worth £18m over 3 years.  Brand isn't worth £18m over 3 lifetimes.

[ARH1]

well. sacking wossy wouldnt make a difference to him. he wouldnt starve. loosing 1.5 is just pocket money. he will become a figure of noteriety and get more from appearence money and books. ifyou or I lost our jobs we could lose our houses. not fair
ARH1

[Vamps]

well. sacking wossy wouldnt make a difference to him. he wouldnt starve. loosing 1.5 is just pocket money. he will become a figure of noteriety and get more from appearence money and books. ifyou or I lost our jobs we could lose our houses. not fair
ARH1

Fair point.