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[pete.h]

I find it worrying that Brand and Ross appear to have so much influence over young people, who seem to think their behaviour is acceptable , if the Radio one survey is anything to go by.
If anyone thinks this sort of thing is acceptable, maybe they should ask themselves a couple of questions.

Would they have any problem if their son/daughter did something similar?

Would they have any problem if it was done to their elderly relative?

I agree that Brand and Ross should be sacked and prosecuted, and I also agree that they are both talentless egocentrics who rely on sensationalism , innuendo and blatant filth to raise an easy laugh from a mindless audience.

[Gaffers]

Many youngsters look to people like Brand as an example of how to bahave.  The old well if he does it they I can attitude.

I would rather they kept their jobs and be shown to have been in the wrong, to accept that themselves and publicly and openly shift their behaviour accordingly hopefully getting the message through to young-uns about how they should behave.  Take em away and youngsters wont take much notice.

Dont forget the infuence the popular kid in school had on the masses  

[Banjax]

what i cannot stand is garbage like the Sun and the Mail getting on their high horses - it actually makes me feel ill!!!

some of the shameful lies these 2 in particular have vomited on our streets in the guise of news beggars belief


Yes, Ross and Brand went over the top and they've apologised for it
No, you don't sack them



Storm in a teacup - interestingly, the BBC received 10000 sorry 5000 sorry 500 oops - errr....3 complaints when it was broadcast, so who are these 9997 pious listeners who weren't offended until the tabloids told them they should be?

[Nickbat]

what i cannot stand is garbage like the Sun and the Mail getting on their high horses - it actually makes me feel ill!!!

some of the shameful lies these 2 in particular have vomited on our streets in the guise of news beggars belief


Yes, Ross and Brand went over the top and they've apologised for it
No, you don't sack them



Storm in a teacup - interestingly, the BBC received 10000 sorry 5000 sorry 500 oops - errr....3 complaints when it was broadcast, so who are these 9997 pious listeners who weren't offended until the tabloids told them they should be?

When the Sun and the Mail leave messages on a 78 year-old's private answerphone saying they have shagged his granddaughter, I'll agree.

As for the number of complainants who did not hear the original broadcast, it's irrelevant. As licence-fee payers, we all have a right to comment on the BBC's output, whether or not we witnessed it at the time of broadcast.      

[Banjax]

what i cannot stand is garbage like the Sun and the Mail getting on their high horses - it actually makes me feel ill!!!

some of the shameful lies these 2 in particular have vomited on our streets in the guise of news beggars belief


Yes, Ross and Brand went over the top and they've apologised for it
No, you don't sack them



Storm in a teacup - interestingly, the BBC received 10000 sorry 5000 sorry 500 oops - errr....3 complaints when it was broadcast, so who are these 9997 pious listeners who weren't offended until the tabloids told them they should be?

When the Sun and the Mail leave messages on a 78 year-old's private answerphone saying they have shagged his granddaughter, I'll agree.

As for the number of complainants who did not hear the original broadcast, it's irrelevant. As licence-fee payers, we all have a right to comment on the BBC's output, whether or not we witnessed it at the time of broadcast.      

you're defending the integrity of the tabloids?

I dont think Ross or Brand exactly covered themselves in glory - i listened to the recording on Youtube - you can literally feel it spinning out of control - yes it went too far but they're all part of the same game aren't they? if you listen to it - theres no malice or evil there, theres embarrassment, shame and apologies from Ross and Brand.

imagine how dull life would be if no one was offended or allowed to be offended - you can't just scream for peoples heads on the slightest mistake or error of judgement  

of those who heard the broadcast - 3 people found it necessary to complain - are you saying that we should be governed on what we can and can't have access to by a tiny, vocal and easily offended minority?

[albitz]

There probably wasnt much more than 3 people listening,they dont operate on a commercial basis.The gaurdianistas in linen suits hi jacked the beeb and turned  it into their own private little kingdom a long time ago.

[albitz]

They have just been suspended.(should be by their necks.)

[Nickbat]

what i cannot stand is garbage like the Sun and the Mail getting on their high horses - it actually makes me feel ill!!!

some of the shameful lies these 2 in particular have vomited on our streets in the guise of news beggars belief


Yes, Ross and Brand went over the top and they've apologised for it
No, you don't sack them



Storm in a teacup - interestingly, the BBC received 10000 sorry 5000 sorry 500 oops - errr....3 complaints when it was broadcast, so who are these 9997 pious listeners who weren't offended until the tabloids told them they should be?

When the Sun and the Mail leave messages on a 78 year-old's private answerphone saying they have shagged his granddaughter, I'll agree.

As for the number of complainants who did not hear the original broadcast, it's irrelevant. As licence-fee payers, we all have a right to comment on the BBC's output, whether or not we witnessed it at the time of broadcast.      

you're defending the integrity of the tabloids?

I dont think Ross or Brand exactly covered themselves in glory - i listened to the recording on Youtube - you can literally feel it spinning out of control - yes it went too far but they're all part of the same game aren't they? if you listen to it - theres no malice or evil there, theres embarrassment, shame and apologies from Ross and Brand.

imagine how dull life would be if no one was offended or allowed to be offended - you can't just scream for peoples heads on the slightest mistake or error of judgement  

of those who heard the broadcast - 3 people found it necessary to complain - are you saying that we should be governed on what we can and can't have access to by a tiny, vocal and easily offended minority?

No, I'm not making a wholesale defence of the tabloids, and I think you know that. This whole episode centres around the broadcast of the deeply disturbing act of leaving highly offensive messages on someone's private answering machine...in the name of entertainment.

I don't have a granddaughter, but if someone left a giggling message on my answerphone to allege that they had had sex with her, I would be outraged. If it was then broadcast to the nation, I would be more than outraged, I would be beside myself. That's not being easily offended, in my book, and I'm surprised you use that phrase.

And I stand by what I said earlier, that as licence-payers we all have a right to complain about the BBC's output whether or not we heard it. Incidentally, the BBC is not exactly easy to complain to and I should imagine that, on a Saturday night, it would be nigh on impossible to find anyone who would listen.  

[Lizzie_Zoom]

I have already stated my view on these two, but it has to be said there is a danger in making them the whipping boys of all our societies ill's.

For decades the society we live in has seen its standards of decency, and what we believe is acceptable in public, to fall dramitically.  I was one in my youth, I thought amoungst what seemed like everyone else, who ridiculed Mary Whitehouse and others like her.  Now I do wonder where our society is heading in so many ways, with Brand and Ross an almost insignificant part of it.  

As I stated in an earlier post, what worries me more is Gordon Brown, David Cameron and the House of Commons in general, spending time on this instead of dealing with far greater issues of importance, unless they are going to sort the morals of our Country out in one go!

[Banjax]

what i cannot stand is garbage like the Sun and the Mail getting on their high horses - it actually makes me feel ill!!!

some of the shameful lies these 2 in particular have vomited on our streets in the guise of news beggars belief


Yes, Ross and Brand went over the top and they've apologised for it
No, you don't sack them



Storm in a teacup - interestingly, the BBC received 10000 sorry 5000 sorry 500 oops - errr....3 complaints when it was broadcast, so who are these 9997 pious listeners who weren't offended until the tabloids told them they should be?

When the Sun and the Mail leave messages on a 78 year-old's private answerphone saying they have shagged his granddaughter, I'll agree.

As for the number of complainants who did not hear the original broadcast, it's irrelevant. As licence-fee payers, we all have a right to comment on the BBC's output, whether or not we witnessed it at the time of broadcast.      

you're defending the integrity of the tabloids?

I dont think Ross or Brand exactly covered themselves in glory - i listened to the recording on Youtube - you can literally feel it spinning out of control - yes it went too far but they're all part of the same game aren't they? if you listen to it - theres no malice or evil there, theres embarrassment, shame and apologies from Ross and Brand.

imagine how dull life would be if no one was offended or allowed to be offended - you can't just scream for peoples heads on the slightest mistake or error of judgement  

of those who heard the broadcast - 3 people found it necessary to complain - are you saying that we should be governed on what we can and can't have access to by a tiny, vocal and easily offended minority?

No, I'm not making a wholesale defence of the tabloids, and I think you know that. This whole episode centres around the broadcast of the deeply disturbing act of leaving highly offensive messages on someone's private answering machine...in the name of entertainment.

I don't have a granddaughter, but if someone left a giggling message on my answerphone to allege that they had had sex with her, I would be outraged. If it was then broadcast to the nation, I would be more than outraged, I would be beside myself. That's not being easily offended, in my book, and I'm surprised you use that phrase.

And I stand by what I said earlier, that as licence-payers we all have a right to complain about the BBC's output whether or not we heard it. Incidentally, the BBC is not exactly easy to complain to and I should imagine that, on a Saturday night, it would be nigh on impossible to find anyone who would listen.  

No no - I can totally see how Andrew Sachs was offended - what I don't get is how suddenly theres 18000 all throwing their hands up - congratulations - yet again, by kowtowing to the moral minority we sink further back to having our views and freedoms suppressed by 2 people (complainant 1 and complainant 2) and once more the beeb has crumbled under pressure from the tabloids ffs!!!

I love the Beeb - but this lack of a spine is beginning to annoy me - stand up for yourself Auntie!!!

absolutely ludicrous - why not have the editors of the tabloids run the country then - they may as well

i'm actually furious the more i think of it

how dare anyone tell me what i can or can't listen to!!!!!

furthermore - how can anyone complain about something they haven't heard??


finally - the BBC is probably the easiest place to make a complaint.


pathetic from the politicians, pathetic from the tabloids

[albitz]

I believe that Brand is a mysogonist.He is infamous for using woman for sex and then dropping them in the most hurtful way he can think of.He pulled a similar trick by announcing to the audience at a function that he had slept with Kimberley Stewart  when both she and her dad (Rod)were present.
Rod took the Mic, and laid into him and nearly made him cry in front of his little friends,he ended up grovelling for forgiveness. Shame he didnt learn his lesson then.

[Vamps]

Just been on the News ahat Brand and Ross have been prevented from broadcasting pending an enquiry.

[jereboam]

Glad they've both been suspended

JR goes too far on his TV shows all the time, and it's about time he was given a reality check.

I know I don't understand young people, and don't know why they do the things they do in the name of entertainment, but Russell Brand is just a step too far.  Outrageousness for it's own sake isn't amusing - it never has been.  We've had this sort of anarchic disrupter before, and they've always come to grief.  Just think back to what Kenny Everett got away with before he got sacked by the Beeb.  Mind you, he was funny.  Russell Brand may have the odd amusing moment, but his entire persona revolts me.  Hope he gets the chop.

[theowletman]

At times Ross can be quite entertaining but I don't even know who Brand is. He / She  looks like something you would see in a transvestite bar, can't even be sure what gender Brand is to be honest. When so-called entertainers have to resort to this type of " humour " it just shows how little they have to offer. If either of their shows are being repeated on the Dave channel in 25 years then I must be wrong. More likely that the recordings will have been environmentally disposed of.

[Banjax]

this isnt an argument- just because you dont personally find someone to your taste doesnt give you the right to ban them.

i cant stand Anne Robinson but i know millions watch her

it's  a dangerous road

put down the pitchforks peeps