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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #1 on: 01 November 2008, 22:15:13 »

Thats somewhere else on oof. ::)
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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #2 on: 01 November 2008, 22:18:32 »

that will teach him 2 valuable lessons:

1) Smoking Kills!
2) Never buy French
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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #3 on: 01 November 2008, 22:22:21 »

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that will teach him 2 valuable lessons:

1) Smoking Kills!
2) Never buy French
;D Both very true, But I would have a peugeot 407 very very nice   :)
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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #4 on: 01 November 2008, 22:26:48 »

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He had the second-hand Peugeot 607 checked over twice by garage mechanics before he got behind the wheel.

that counts for nothing, most mechanics are not that familiar with LPG.....

if you smell gas in the car then it is fair to say there is a gas leak......and you shouldn't use LPG.....

If i smelt gas at home, i would call the gas board and not use it
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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #5 on: 02 November 2008, 21:05:26 »

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He had the second-hand Peugeot 607 checked over twice by garage mechanics before he got behind the wheel.

that counts for nothing, most mechanics are not that familiar with LPG.....

if you smell gas in the car then it is fair to say there is a gas leak......and you shouldn't use LPG.....

If i smelt gas at home, i would call the gas board and not use it

Another quality LPGA certified converson, no doubt. :(

Not good publicity for LPG at all.

.. and WTF light up a fag when you can smell gas? ::)

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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #6 on: 02 November 2008, 21:20:19 »

before the ciggy why dont open the windows and wait a bit ;D
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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #7 on: 02 November 2008, 21:22:44 »

Is there not a way of turning off the LPG system ?. If I understand it correctly, the tank feed is controlled by a solenoid. If this were turned off, there will only be the LPG remaining inthe pipework, which won't be that much, and would hopefully evaporate quickly, if you drove the car some distance.

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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #8 on: 02 November 2008, 21:40:18 »

The only way you can get an explosion like that is if there is a substantial buildup of gas in the car, making a rich enough mixture for it to explode. A correct installation will duct all connections to components within the car outside, so leaks into the interior of the car can't happen.

This is certainly the combination of a very dangerous installation and someone with no sense of smell whatsoever. The stench at that level of gas leakage would have been unbearable.

Given that he'd just filled up, I'd say his filler line was leaking into the car somehow.

Kevin


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The feed from the cylinder is protected by a solenoid valve at the cylinder itself and the filler to the cylinder has a non-return valve.

The gas tank almost certainly remained intact. They don't explode because they simply contain too rich a mixture of gas. A cylinder ruptured in a fire would burn quite rapidly, and until there's not much left of the car, but it wouldn't blow windows out and leave the car almost intact.
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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #9 on: 02 November 2008, 21:44:12 »

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He had the second-hand Peugeot 607 checked over twice by garage mechanics before he got behind the wheel.

that counts for nothing, most mechanics are not that familiar with LPG.....

if you smell gas in the car then it is fair to say there is a gas leak......and you shouldn't use LPG.....

If i smelt gas at home, i would call the gas board and not use it

Another quality LPGA certified converson, no doubt. :(

Not good publicity for LPG at all.

.. and WTF light up a f*g when you can smell gas? ::)

Kevin

Probably... Yet another reason to do as most of us have and fit it yourself... At least then you nkow 100% that everything has been done to standard!
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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #10 on: 02 November 2008, 21:53:35 »

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The only way you can get an explosion like that is if there is a substantial buildup of gas in the car, making a rich enough mixture for it to explode. A correct installation will duct all connections to components within the car outside, so leaks into the interior of the car can't happen.

This is certainly the combination of a very dangerous installation and someone with no sense of smell whatsoever. The stench at that level of gas leakage would have been unbearable.

Given that he'd just filled up, I'd say his filler line was leaking into the car somehow.

Kevin


Edited to say:
The feed from the cylinder is protected by a solenoid valve at the cylinder itself and the filler to the cylinder has a non-return valve.

The gas tank almost certainly remained intact. They don't explode because they simply contain too rich a mixture of gas. A cylinder ruptured in a fire would burn quite rapidly, and until there's not much left of the car, but it wouldn't blow windows out and leave the car almost intact.

Exactly ..

There are many times that I hold a lighter in front of the gas in kitchen and it dont fire up ..The concentration must have reached very high levels.. And still you dont smell it :o


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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #11 on: 02 November 2008, 22:26:59 »

 :o Doesn`t really matter if it was deflagration or detonation; he must`ve been scared absolutely-wittless and very lucky to escape so lightly! :o
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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #12 on: 02 November 2008, 22:58:14 »

I don't think that this necessarily saying don't get LPG...

Let's think for a minute, if you car was smelling very heavily of petrol, would you just ignore it and light-up...?

If you did, the results would have been similar....

Both LPG and petrol are highly flammable, and a leak is a leak, which means that poor design or poor workmanship are dangerous with both LPG and petrol systems....




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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #13 on: 03 November 2008, 00:20:49 »

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The only way you can get an explosion like that is if there is a substantial buildup of gas in the car, making a rich enough mixture for it to explode. A correct installation will duct all connections to components within the car outside, so leaks into the interior of the car can't happen.

This is certainly the combination of a very dangerous installation and someone with no sense of smell whatsoever. The stench at that level of gas leakage would have been unbearable.

Given that he'd just filled up, I'd say his filler line was leaking into the car somehow.

Kevin


Edited to say:
The feed from the cylinder is protected by a solenoid valve at the cylinder itself and the filler to the cylinder has a non-return valve.

The gas tank almost certainly remained intact. They don't explode because they simply contain too rich a mixture of gas. A cylinder ruptured in a fire would burn quite rapidly, and until there's not much left of the car, but it wouldn't blow windows out and leave the car almost intact.


Thanks KW, the engineer strikes again. Examine the facts, not the crap in the news ;D papers.

This must have been caused by a crap installation, or a fundamental breakdown in the LPG feed system, and a driver with no sense at all. Whether he should be in charge of a car is another question .

Could this have been caused by a badly supported gas feed pipe and speed bumps ?. I have had an exhaust knocked off by them, is this another casualty ?.

Ken
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Re: A notice to all LPG drivers out there....
« Reply #14 on: 03 November 2008, 00:41:23 »

I wonder if it was installed by the same crew who bodged Dannys ? :-/ :o
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