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Police Sacked
« on: 26 November 2008, 18:31:12 »

Officer sacked over remark in Police canteen:

http://www.policeoracle.com/news/1,000-Arrest-PC-Sacked_17742.html

Officer sacked for sending sinful email:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/7750329.stm

Walls definately have eyes and ears  :-/
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« Reply #1 on: 26 November 2008, 18:35:34 »

Bit much this

1 joke remark nowhere near the public

BTW if he said it to the public - different matter - why did his collegue ask about the colour of the chap?

Did they get the right person?

If the person mentioned was from Africa - would not actually be racist - just stupid?

If Carribean - tosser
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Re: Police Sacked
« Reply #2 on: 26 November 2008, 19:12:24 »

you're in a position of responsibility - if your basic attitude is discriminatory then you're not treating members of the public fairly - totally agree they can't do the job on that basis - tough lesson, but a lesson learned I'm afraid  :o
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Re: Police Sacked
« Reply #3 on: 26 November 2008, 19:50:10 »

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you're in a position of responsibility - if your basic attitude is discriminatory then you're not treating members of the public fairly - totally agree they can't do the job on that basis - tough lesson, but a lesson learned I'm afraid  :o

A bit simelar to the Cops being struck off for being on the the BNP list really.

With the first link, my personal view is that sacking was harsh, after such an impecable record.

If there was evidence that he was using extremist views in the way he dealt with people then fair enough, sack him...

But for making a private joke just with a colleage, for me doesn't evidence that the person involved really holds any discriminatory views - more just bad taste  :-/

« Last Edit: 26 November 2008, 19:54:35 by JamesV6CDX »
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« Reply #4 on: 26 November 2008, 19:55:05 »

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you're in a position of responsibility - if your basic attitude is discriminatory then you're not treating members of the public fairly - totally agree they can't do the job on that basis - tough lesson, but a lesson learned I'm afraid  :o

Totally agree :y.
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Re: Police Sacked
« Reply #5 on: 26 November 2008, 20:05:35 »

the met has been in the news lately with rascism claims from the asst commisioner i believe.300grand pay off havent they offered him. could be using him as a scape goat and made an example of him just to show they dont tolerate rascism.excellenmt case for race relations id say. we all joke about colour, race, disability,anything to make you laugh. it part of life
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« Reply #6 on: 26 November 2008, 20:54:54 »

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you're in a position of responsibility - if your basic attitude is discriminatory then you're not treating members of the public fairly - totally agree they can't do the job on that basis - tough lesson, but a lesson learned I'm afraid  :o

Totally agree :y.

So do I! :y :y :y

Any member of the Kent Police would get the same traetment, just as it should be in 2008. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Re: Police Sacked
« Reply #7 on: 26 November 2008, 21:01:56 »

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you're in a position of responsibility - if your basic attitude is discriminatory then you're not treating members of the public fairly - totally agree they can't do the job on that basis - tough lesson, but a lesson learned I'm afraid  :o

Totally agree :y.

So do I! :y :y :y

Any member of the Kent Police would get the same traetment, just as it should be in 2008. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Does one, possibly misjudged, comment, give you a clear picture of one's "basic attitude"?

« Last Edit: 26 November 2008, 21:02:18 by JamesV6CDX »
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« Reply #8 on: 26 November 2008, 21:07:49 »

Do Police Officers have to be saint's these days ?  We have all, at some point, made ill thought out remarks -- they don't reflect our innermost attitudes or beliefs.

Be honest -- how many times have you sworn you hated someone -- does that now make you a hateful person --- have you ever uttered "I will kill you / her / him "  -- I have I am sure -- does that make me a murderer.

Point out the error of their ways -- but this knee jerk reaction just to prove political correctness is way over the top !
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« Reply #9 on: 26 November 2008, 21:25:25 »

I think the first joke is nothing, a bit silly, but...... Let he/she who is without sin throw the first stone. Nobody is perfect, and I imagine life in the police force is very stressful, so the occasional reaction to stress is to be expected. What did the person being detained do during arrest?.

The Police can't be perfect all the time, yet some people try and force them to be. The net result will be to influence police actions, eg a problem in a coloured area, so should a white police person go in, and risk offending somebody by offending their "rights", often I suspect invented for convenience. Now lets see, it is a Scottish custom to wear the Skian Dhu, tucked into their sock. So I can walk around with one, and not be done for carrying a dangerous weapon ?.
I think the net effect will be to demoralise the Police force, and who ever made this judgement should be sacked immediately.

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Re: Police Sacked
« Reply #10 on: 26 November 2008, 21:27:47 »

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I think the first joke is nothing, a bit silly, but...... Let he/she who is without sin throw the first stone. Nobody is perfect, and I imagine life in the police force is very stressful, so the occasional reaction to stress is to be expected. What did the person being detained do during arrest?.

The Police can't be perfect all the time, yet some people try and force them to be. The net result will be to influence police actions, eg a problem in a coloured area, so should a white police person go in, and risk offending somebody by offending their "rights", often I suspect invented for convenience. Now lets see, it is a Scottish custom to wear the Skian Dhu, tucked into their sock. So I can walk around with one, and not be done for carrying a dangerous weapon ?.
I think the net effect will be to demoralise the Police force, and who ever made this judgement should be sacked immediately.

Ken

Agreed. :-X
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« Reply #11 on: 26 November 2008, 21:37:18 »

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I think the first joke is nothing, a bit silly, but...... Let he/she who is without sin throw the first stone. Nobody is perfect, and I imagine life in the police force is very stressful, so the occasional reaction to stress is to be expected. What did the person being detained do during arrest?.

The Police can't be perfect all the time, yet some people try and force them to be. The net result will be to influence police actions, eg a problem in a coloured area, so should a white police person go in, and risk offending somebody by offending their "rights", often I suspect invented for convenience. Now lets see, it is a Scottish custom to wear the Skian Dhu, tucked into their sock. So I can walk around with one, and not be done for carrying a dangerous weapon ?.
I think the net effect will be to demoralise the Police force, and who ever made this judgement should be sacked immediately.

Ken

Agreed. :-X

Thank goodness someone else sees it that way. I think HC sums it up well :y
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Re: Police Sacked
« Reply #12 on: 26 November 2008, 22:00:38 »

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Now lets see, it is a Scottish custom to wear the Skian Dhu, tucked into their sock. So I can walk around with one, and not be done for carrying a dangerous weapon.

Ken

Well a Sikh can carry a Kirpan for religious and ceremonial purposes in public, so I don't see how your case is any different:

http://www.warwickshire.police.uk/Diversity/Policingourcommunities/Sikhs

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« Reply #13 on: 26 November 2008, 22:04:43 »

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Now lets see, it is a Scottish custom to wear the Skian Dhu, tucked into their sock. So I can walk around with one, and not be done for carrying a dangerous weapon.

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Well a Sikh can carry a Kirpan for religious and ceremonial purposes in public, so I don't see how your case is any different:

http://www.warwickshire.police.uk/Diversity/Policingourcommunities/Sikhs

And an ashtray thats normally used by a smoker can be a blunt instrument or an offensive weapon, depending on how its used?  As could Florence Nightingales candlestick if its used as a club to split a skull??

Keep things in context to retain their worth and integrity.... :y
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« Reply #14 on: 26 November 2008, 22:08:51 »

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Now lets see, it is a Scottish custom to wear the Skian Dhu, tucked into their sock. So I can walk around with one, and not be done for carrying a dangerous weapon.

Ken

Well a Sikh can carry a Kirpan for religious and ceremonial purposes in public, so I don't see how your case is any different:

http://www.warwickshire.police.uk/Diversity/Policingourcommunities/Sikhs

And an ashtray thats normally used by a smoker can be a blunt instrument or an offensive weapon, depending on how its used?  As could Florence Nightingales candlestick if its used as a club to split a skull??

Keep things in context to retain their worth and integrity.... :y

Agreed - I guess the same could be said for many things - sports players carrying baseball bats, fishermen carrying knives for fishing tackle... etc.... most are capable of being carried for an innocent purpose - it's when they're misused that problems arise.



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