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Re: a hypothetical but non the less challenging Q
« Reply #30 on: 26 November 2008, 13:56:01 »

Is murder not a crime in this context? :o

Surely the saving of 5 lives does not justify the ending of another!  :-?
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Re: a hypothetical but non the less challenging Q
« Reply #31 on: 26 November 2008, 14:05:38 »

OK -- the donor would have to be in a position to volunteer to be culled ... not likely to happen.

And what guarantee have you that the other 5 would survive the transplants anyway --- the key is the word "Potential" --- in reality you could end up losing all 6!

You have one alive -- you might have 5 ... "bird in the hand vs. 2 in the bush"  :-?
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Re: a hypothetical but non the less challenging Q
« Reply #32 on: 26 November 2008, 17:21:40 »

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OK -- the donor would have to be in a position to volunteer to be culled ... not likely to happen.

And what guarantee have you that the other 5 would survive the transplants anyway --- the key is the word "Potential" --- in reality you could end up losing all 6!

You have one alive -- you might have 5 ... "bird in the hand vs. 2 in the bush"  :-?

big pay day for the undertaker  :)
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« Reply #33 on: 26 November 2008, 17:37:36 »

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OK -- the donor would have to be in a position to volunteer to be culled ... not likely to happen.

And what guarantee have you that the other 5 would survive the transplants anyway --- the key is the word "Potential" --- in reality you could end up losing all 6!

You have one alive -- you might have 5 ... "bird in the hand vs. 2 in the bush"  :-?

big pay day for the undertaker  :)


Always look on the bright side  :)
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« Reply #34 on: 26 November 2008, 17:42:01 »

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That seems a more practical solution Mark, although it comes with the same moral question - which one?


Ah, well thats a bit easier....no good going for people with kidney trouble....as you ahev two kidneys and you want to benefit the majority.

The hard part is choosing liver, lungs or heart....and that has to be based on the particular condition....i.e. if the person with heart issues was a smoker then the lungs may well be buggered anyway.

Sorry, typical (real) engineers approach......they say engineers make great doctors (thansk to thier superior diag skills) but sadly, they also say it as it is which would not go down to well!

yep..but more practical..
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Re: a hypothetical but non the less challenging Q
« Reply #35 on: 29 November 2008, 13:28:30 »

some interesting views.....

as another hypothetical...

you and a group of 5 very good lifelong friends are held hostage, you have been appointed the leader of the group by the hostage takers.
they give you a dilemma.......
To prove a point then need to kill one person, YOU have to decide who....

if you are unable to decide the entire group will be killed.
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« Reply #36 on: 29 November 2008, 13:37:46 »

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some interesting views.....

as another hypothetical...

you and a group of 5 very good lifelong friends are held hostage, you have been appointed the leader of the group by the hostage takers.
they give you a dilemma.......
To prove a point then need to kill one person, YOU have to decide who....

if you are unable to decide the entire group will be killed.


you stayed in front of pc too much go drive your car ;D :y
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« Reply #37 on: 29 November 2008, 13:53:54 »

Good point Cem ... but ....

I guess it would boil down to who had the least to live for  :-[  So if you are single with no kids -- bye bye  :o  In the absence of a volunteer of course !
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Re: a hypothetical but non the less challenging Q
« Reply #38 on: 29 November 2008, 14:54:50 »

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Good point Cem ... but ....

I guess it would boil down to who had the least to live for  :-[  So if you are single with no kids -- bye bye  :o  In the absence of a volunteer of course !

my choice would be the person i didnt like. simple as that  ;)
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Re: a hypothetical but non the less challenging Q
« Reply #39 on: 29 November 2008, 14:59:07 »

I think i would draw straws for that one.
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« Reply #40 on: 29 November 2008, 15:14:06 »

In that situation the decision on who should be spared would have to be based on the age, the number of dependants, and the importance to society of the individuals, and the one 'scoring' the least would be the one to be sacrificed for the "greater good". :( :( :( :(
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« Reply #41 on: 29 November 2008, 15:34:36 »

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In that situation the decision on who should be spared would have to be based on the age, the number of dependants, and the importance to society of the individuals, and the one 'scoring' the least would be the one to be sacrificed for the "greater good". :( :( :( :(


That's me gone then  :o
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« Reply #42 on: 29 November 2008, 15:37:02 »

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In that situation the decision on who should be spared would have to be based on the age, the number of dependants, and the importance to society of the individuals, and the one 'scoring' the least would be the one to be sacrificed for the "greater good". :( :( :( :(


That's me gone then  :o

Do not worry HC, I would definately be the first to be chosen for sacrifice!! ::) ::) ::) ;)
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Re: a hypothetical but non the less challenging Q
« Reply #43 on: 29 November 2008, 15:44:26 »

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some interesting views.....

as another hypothetical...

you and a group of 5 very good lifelong friends are held hostage, you have been appointed the leader of the group by the hostage takers.
they give you a dilemma.......
To prove a point then need to kill one person, YOU have to decide who....

if you are unable to decide the entire group will be killed.
The honourable course of action for the person chosen to make the decision would be self sacrifice.
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Re: a hypothetical but non the less challenging Q
« Reply #44 on: 29 November 2008, 22:18:47 »

Another engineer's view... What about the prisons? Surely there are people in there who have been "written off" by society and are waiting to be "broken for spares"?

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