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[matt-sboro]

this may look like a begging post but its not trust me...


recently i've wondered why i bother to go to work every morning and work bloody hard for my £27k + overtime a year when i could sponge off the country and get everything for free.

my mrs doesnt work becuase of the new baby but she didnt work before due to moving to a new area then getting pregnant.

now i am fully aware if i couldnt afford a baby then i should have been more careful - but thats not my point.

my mrs has a little boy by a previous partner who i think pays £12 a week (although his family is minted) so all she gets is child benefit.

i've recently wanted to get the cavity wall insulation done and bearing in mind my budget is pretty stretched at the moment £200 is alot to shell out when i could be spending that helping to clear a few loans off.

why is it that the sponging can work but wont work population manage to get everything for free no questions asked but when someone who has paid alot into the goverment coffers through tax cant manage to get a small sum waived to get cavity wall insulation.

apparantly i earn too much....£1500 between 2 adults and 2 children after tax doesnt go very far when £850 of that goes straight on a mortgage and nearly £120 of that on council tax.

just because i earn my money for a living rather than sitting on my arse watching jeremy kyle all day i am branded one of the many workers who the goverment can monthly rape on the 15th of each month  

rant over!

[dbug]

Couldn't agree more.

A few years back, when I was paying around 40% tax, I was made redundant from a well paid job, fully expensed exec car etc etc.  I signed on and received in total £2K in benefits back from the Govt over a 12 months period!!

I was paying nearly that amount in tax per month when working!!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Simply if you think you can have the lifestyle and feeling of satisfaction that you can enjoy on a £27k+ salary when on benefits, then try it!

Believe me, when I was briefly unemployed 'between jobs' a few years back no way did the misery of trying to live on £54 cash in your hand per week make up for the spending power of what I was on then, £35k+!!

Don't forget people on benifits of Job Seekers Allowance will get Housing and Rates Benifits, but that is NOT cash in hand, but paid directly to the Council/landlord.  

This myth that people are driving around in luxury cars, living in executive houses, and enjoying numerous holidays abroad per year is just that; a myth!!

Those on genuine benefits (and not committing benifit fraud!!) are just living on what the Government states they "need to live on", no more, no less!!

But, if you really think you can gain from being on benefits, then try it!

[waspy]

Hey mate i know exactly what you mean. I was made redundant in oct (after being in work for 26 years) & the bloody lengths you have to go to just get what you deserve, whilst the sponges around where i live have their feet up & sitting pretty. There's a guy just up the road from me, he's supposed to have some thing wrong with his head/brain, doesn't stop him from walking the dog, going shopping, with me being outa work too i see alot of him & it's clear there's nothing wrong with him (just bloody idol). Then there's the other lad next door to him, perfrectly capable of working, but doesn't. It makes me really angry & i have to not think about it, because when i see them, placid Pete wants to punch them in the face.
Still i can hold my head up high, because i can't wait until the 5th of Jan & then i can say what's mine is earnt again

[Andy B]

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Don't forget people on benifits of Job Seekers Allowance will get Housing and Rates Benifits, but that is NOT cash in hand, but paid directly to the Council/landlord.   .......  

I'm not sure that's right anymore  :-/ Elite Pete's the one to ask, I thought it was against their 'uman rights to not be given the money to pay their landlord themselves .......

[waspy]

Simply if you think you can have the lifestyle and feeling of satisfaction that you can enjoy on a £27k+ salary when on benefits, then try it!

Believe me, when I was briefly unemployed 'between jobs' a few years back no way did the misery of trying to live on £54 cash in your hand per week make up for the spending power of what I was on then, £35k+!!

Don't forget people on benifits of Job Seekers Allowance will get Housing and Rates Benifits, but that is NOT cash in hand, but paid directly to the Council/landlord.  

This myth that people are driving around in luxury cars, living in executive houses, and enjoying numerous holidays abroad per year is just that; a myth!!

Those on genuine benefits (and not committing benifit fraud!!) are just living on what the Government states they "need to live on", no more, no less!!

But, if you really think you can gain from being on benefits, then try it!

 

JSA is around the £60.00 a week mark, the council tax is paid by the council. It's true Lizzie, you do get used to the wage every week & you certainly miss it when it's gone, but i never live beyond my means. I've had to buy cheaper food products which goes against my healthy life style morals, but it's not for long
What gets me the most is, how they expect someone to eat, pay gas, elec, phone (in my case phones) water rates & buy news papers to look for jobs on that amount. Then you have to find enough to pay for your travelling expenses to interviews, stamps for CV's etc & all out of £60.00. I'd like to see an MP live on that & do all that i've had to do. SREKNAW

[albitz]

Had a bit of experience of the benifits sysrem a few months back.
I drew the conclusion that if you are prepared to lie and know how to play the system you could do reasonably well.
you need to con a doctor into going down the incapacity/disabled/carer route on your behalf and then there is enough money available to make quite a few jobs not worthwhile bothering with.

[HolyCount]

this may look like a begging post but its not trust me...


recently i've wondered why i bother to go to work every morning and work bloody hard for my £27k + overtime a year when i could sponge off the country and get everything for free.

my mrs doesnt work becuase of the new baby but she didnt work before due to moving to a new area then getting pregnant.

now i am fully aware if i couldnt afford a baby then i should have been more careful - but thats not my point.

my mrs has a little boy by a previous partner who i think pays £12 a week (although his family is minted) so all she gets is child benefit.

i've recently wanted to get the cavity wall insulation done and bearing in mind my budget is pretty stretched at the moment £200 is alot to shell out when i could be spending that helping to clear a few loans off.

why is it that the sponging can work but wont work population manage to get everything for free no questions asked but when someone who has paid alot into the goverment coffers through tax cant manage to get a small sum waived to get cavity wall insulation.

apparantly i earn too much....£1500 between 2 adults and 2 children after tax doesnt go very far when £850 of that goes straight on a mortgage and nearly £120 of that on council tax.

just because i earn my money for a living rather than sitting on my arse watching jeremy kyle all day i am branded one of the many workers who the goverment can monthly rape on the 15th of each month  

rant over!

From the little I have seen of his programme, watching it IS a hard day's work !!!  

[waspy]

this may look like a begging post but its not trust me...


recently i've wondered why i bother to go to work every morning and work bloody hard for my £27k + overtime a year when i could sponge off the country and get everything for free.

my mrs doesnt work becuase of the new baby but she didnt work before due to moving to a new area then getting pregnant.

now i am fully aware if i couldnt afford a baby then i should have been more careful - but thats not my point.

my mrs has a little boy by a previous partner who i think pays £12 a week (although his family is minted) so all she gets is child benefit.

i've recently wanted to get the cavity wall insulation done and bearing in mind my budget is pretty stretched at the moment £200 is alot to shell out when i could be spending that helping to clear a few loans off.

why is it that the sponging can work but wont work population manage to get everything for free no questions asked but when someone who has paid alot into the goverment coffers through tax cant manage to get a small sum waived to get cavity wall insulation.

apparantly i earn too much....£1500 between 2 adults and 2 children after tax doesnt go very far when £850 of that goes straight on a mortgage and nearly £120 of that on council tax.

just because i earn my money for a living rather than sitting on my arse watching jeremy kyle all day i am branded one of the many workers who the goverment can monthly rape on the 15th of each month  

rant over!

From the little I have seen of his programme, watching it IS a hard day's work !!!  

Agreed. Only watched it a couple of times & every guest (loose word) they have on seems to an inbred of many generations

[zippo]

Simply if you think you can have the lifestyle and feeling of satisfaction that you can enjoy on a £27k+ salary when on benefits, then try it!

Believe me, when I was briefly unemployed 'between jobs' a few years back no way did the misery of trying to live on £54 cash in your hand per week make up for the spending power of what I was on then, £35k+!!

Don't forget people on benifits of Job Seekers Allowance will get Housing and Rates Benifits, but that is NOT cash in hand, but paid directly to the Council/landlord.  

This myth that people are driving around in luxury cars, living in executive houses, and enjoying numerous holidays abroad per year is just that; a myth!!

Those on genuine benefits (and not committing benifit fraud!!) are just living on what the Government states they "need to live on", no more, no less!!

But, if you really think you can gain from being on benefits, then try it!

 

JSA is around the £60.00 a week mark, the council tax is paid by the council. It's true Lizzie, you do get used to the wage every week & you certainly miss it when it's gone, but i never live beyond my means. I've had to buy cheaper food products which goes against my healthy life style morals, but it's not for long
What gets me the most is, how they expect someone to eat, pay gas, elec, phone (in my case phones) water rates & buy news papers to look for jobs on that amount. Then you have to find enough to pay for your travelling expenses to interviews, stamps for CV's etc & all out of £60.00. I'd like to see an MP live on that & do all that i've had to do. SREKNAW

what does srekaw stand for  :question

[Andy B]

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what does srekaw stand for  :question

C'mon Zippy ... keep up!  
Look at it backwards!      

[zippo]

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what does srekaw stand for  :question

C'mon Zippy ... keep up!  
Look at it backwards!      

I'll get me coat  

[jereboam]

Contributions-based Job Seekers Allowance is £60.50 per week.  If you want any other benefits, they're means tested.  

My wife still has her (fairly well-paid) teaching job, so all I get is the JSA.  Some come down from the £2200 per month net that I was earning before I got made redundant.  Out of that I was paying over £900 for the mortgage, £100 gas/electricity, £200 council tax and loads of other stuff.  Don't get any help with that.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Simply if you think you can have the lifestyle and feeling of satisfaction that you can enjoy on a £27k+ salary when on benefits, then try it!

Believe me, when I was briefly unemployed 'between jobs' a few years back no way did the misery of trying to live on £54 cash in your hand per week make up for the spending power of what I was on then, £35k+!!

Don't forget people on benifits of Job Seekers Allowance will get Housing and Rates Benifits, but that is NOT cash in hand, but paid directly to the Council/landlord.  

This myth that people are driving around in luxury cars, living in executive houses, and enjoying numerous holidays abroad per year is just that; a myth!!

Those on genuine benefits (and not committing benifit fraud!!) are just living on what the Government states they "need to live on", no more, no less!!

But, if you really think you can gain from being on benefits, then try it!

 

Lizzie is correct on this one.

There will always be a small number of people who will take advantage of the benefits system.............and the right wing press make big play about all these super rich people driving around in big cars and generally living a wealthy lifestyle. :-/

But ..........by and large it is just sensationalism.......... designed to appeal to the elderly blue rinse tory voter ......and Daily Express reader.

I would say that most people on benefits "get by" but little more than that.  

We certainly have a growing underclass in this country ........some perhaps........ even many.......... who have never worked.....and this is a problem that needs to be looked at .

In summary .....I would say that being on long term benefits is not a viable alternative to work............if you wish to live a prosperous life.

[Richie London]

my x wifes next door neighbour was fiddling for 5 yrs, estimated benefit fraud was 44000 sign off or were take you to court, thats all they said. she now pays it back at £10 a week i think.

dirty stinking pissshead below me gets extra payments for being an alcoholic.  

when the goverment pamper the shite and penalise the innocent for being out of work.  it does not pay being honest and hardworking