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[Mr Skrunts]

[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sC4qtfiiuY4[/media]

[Mr Skrunts]

Course Car with Colin McRae Driving.

[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e01xeFetv_g[/media]

[Mr Skrunts]

[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qefKc-SPR-I[/media]

Love the R5 Gordinni Turbo's

[Mr Skrunts]

[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Mag3kA2J8[/media]

[Mr Skrunts]

[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1XzM6jHB1o[/media]

[Mr Skrunts]

[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=p6tFJznYT_A[/media]

Playlist - 74 Groub B Rallying Clip/Video's

[vauxnut]

i was one of the lucky ones. i got paid to work at swindon race engines at a time when  the main work we were doing was opel manta 400 engines ,john welch x trac astra with manta base engine running ex benneton f1 turbo(600 plus bhp on dyno)6r4 engine moded for use in c2 spec race car for the late john leslie.and a whole lot of cosworth based race and rally engines.best time ever of my working life.

[Dusty]

i was one of the lucky ones. i got paid to work at swindon race engines at a time when  the main work we were doing was opel manta 400 engines ,john welch x trac astra with manta base engine running ex benneton f1 turbo(600 plus bhp on dyno)6r4 engine moded for use in c2 spec race car for the late john leslie.and a whole lot of cosworth based race and rally engines.best time ever of my working life.

Why are modern rally cars much less powerful.

Is it something to do with the safety aspects.

[JueV6]

The FIA said that the Group B cars were geting so quick that they were getting as quick as an F1 car on gravel. The safety of spectators and drivers was paramount

so they were BANNED. and capacity limited to 2000 and also BHP limited. even the 1 off specials have now been banned Now due to the economic climate, Subaru have quit WRC and i'm sure others will follow.

[JueV6]

I was also 1 of the lucky few to Marshall on the Lombard RAC Rally. The only Rally in the calander that was driven BLIND (NO PACE NOTES)  from 1982 to 1986 and was one of the few to see these SUPERBLY engineered cars drived through the Welsh forests and Keilder in anger

I was living in Kent at the time and took my Mk ll Escort to Chester, Bath, Harrogate etc for the starts and then drove approx 1500 miles around the country driving the stages to get to our marshall posts.
Some of the best driving experiences I've ever had .
Forest of Dean, Kielder, Epynt, The Lakes etc.

Not in the way the Rally of GB is run now.

Scrutineering on the Friday
Start and the Mickey Mouse Stages on the Saturday and Sunday
Then the Rally Proper Monday to Thursday
Day and Night Stages
Prize Giving on the Friday

Not Start on Friday and End on Sunday  as it is now


Group B Cars:

Audi Sport Quattro S1
Citroën BX 4TC
Citroën Visa 1000 Pistes
Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione
Ford RS200
Ford Escort RS 1700T (car built to gr. B regulations but not homologated; project abandoned in favor of RS200)
Lada VFTS (homologation number B-222)
Lancia 037 Rally
Lancia Delta S4
MG Metro 6R4
Mitsubishi Starion 4WD (not homologated before Group B ended, ran as prototype)
Mazda RX-7 4x4
Nissan 240RS
Opel Manta 400
Peugeot 205 T16
Peugeot 305 V6 (car built to gr. B regulations but not homologated; project abandoned in favor of 205 T16)
Porsche 911 SC RS
Porsche 959 (see also Porsche 961 for circuit racing version)
Renault 5 Turbo
Škoda 130 LR (homologation number B-269)
Toyota Celica Twin-Cam Turbo

Markku Alen
Attilio Bettega
Massimo Biasion
Stig Blomqvist
John Buffum
Juha Kankkunen
Hannu Mikkola
Michèle Mouton
Tony Pond
Walter Röhrl
Timo Salonen
Henri Toivonen
Ari Vatanen

[Mr Skrunts]

The good old days eh!

I went to watch the lombard thorough the Clumer park Stages arround 82/3.  2 of the bosses sons had cars competing (Chevette HS and Escort BDG)  The BDG went on to win its class in one of the years.

As far as I know one of them continued rallying for a while and had an Ascona 400 then a 6R4.  The other brother who won in the BDG still gets involved in motoersport from what I gather.

When I find the pics I will try and scan them and post them.

[JueV6]

I was at Chatsworth when Tony Pond folded his Rover Vittesse around the Tree

[Mr Skrunts]

Group B Cars:

Audi Sport Quattro S1
Citroën BX 4TC
Citroën Visa 1000 Pistes
Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione
Ford RS200
Ford Escort RS 1700T (car built to gr. B regulations but not homologated; project abandoned in favor of RS200)
Lada VFTS (homologation number B-222)
Lancia 037 Rally
Lancia Delta S4
MG Metro 6R4
Mitsubishi Starion 4WD (not homologated before Group B ended, ran as prototype)
Mazda RX-7 4x4
Nissan 240RS
Opel Manta 400
Peugeot 205 T16
Peugeot 305 V6 (car built to gr. B regulations but not homologated; project abandoned in favor of 205 T16)
Porsche 911 SC RS
Porsche 959 (see also Porsche 961 for circuit racing version)
Renault 5 Turbo
Škoda 130 LR (homologation number B-269)
Toyota Celica Twin-Cam Turbo

Markku Alen
Attilio Bettega
Massimo Biasion
Stig Blomqvist
John Buffum
Juha Kankkunen
Hannu Mikkola
Michèle Mouton
Tony Pond
Walter Röhrl
Timo Salonen
Henri Toivonen
Ari Vatanen

I still have my Grandstand video collection from over 30 years ago of
Stig Blomqvist driving the Lotus Sunbeam.  Tony Pond in the HSR.  Then along came the 4WD stuff and just blew me away.  Those chattering Auddi Turbo.s and flame thrower exhasts.

I think I got a picture of the 911 SC, and on one of the vids I have footage of a BMW M1SE ralling as well.

[VXL V6]

I was at Chatsworth when Tony Pond folded his Rover Vittesse around the Tree

Think his number plate summed that incident up.... WOE iirc!

[Darth Loo-knee]

I clicked to play the first clip, watching the Quattro, thought this has got to be over 20 years old, hope there is a 6R4 on here..... Then the next clip had it on....
My favourite the 6R4 the sound the look the Bizz  

Next the Mk 2 Escort still think the shape is lovely now..