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Martin_1962

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More spying on the British public
« on: 10 January 2009, 10:46:14 »
I suppose webmail will be fine

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7819230.stm

What about OOFMail?
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« Reply #1 on: 10 January 2009, 10:53:08 »
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I suppose webmail will be fine

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7819230.stm

What about OOFMail?


It's all in the name of National Security, so goodbye our previous Western Liberal Democracy of Liberty and Free Speech!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: More spying on the British public
« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2009, 11:00:47 »
Thankfully the RIPA (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act) prevents access for all but the most serious offences, I'd be very surprised if they got used for anything but Terrorism cases
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Re: More spying on the British public
« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2009, 11:27:35 »
So, given that I run my own mail server, are my ISP going to have to sniff every SMTP connection, incoming and outgoing, and record the contents?

Good luck to them in filtering out the interesting stuff from the spam.

A mail account based offshore with secure access would scupper them somewhat. Still, I have often wondered when this government will finally understand how the internet works, and stop their pontless efforts to control it.

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« Reply #4 on: 10 January 2009, 11:32:53 »
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So, given that I run my own mail server, are my ISP going to have to sniff every SMTP connection, incoming and outgoing, and record the contents?

Good luck to them in filtering out the interesting stuff from the spam.

A mail account based offshore with secure access would scupper them somewhat. Still, I have often wondered when this government will finally understand how the internet works, and stop their pontless efforts to control it.

Kevin

I am far from being a computer expert Kevin, but as I understand what I have researched 99% of the World's ISP's are based in California in the dear old USA. ::) ::) ::)

Therefore, who really has control of the Internet and e-mails, especially considering the US military had ownership of the ISP base up until the 1980s/90'?? :-? :-? :-?

Or am I talking out of complete ignorance? ::) ::) ::)   I am very interested to know the truth from those who really know the IT setup. :D :D :D ;)
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Re: More spying on the British public
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« Reply #6 on: 10 January 2009, 11:41:17 »
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5439604.ece
So what does everyone think to this??


Won't happen, too many anti virus, anti spyware pakages
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Re: More spying on the British public
« Reply #7 on: 10 January 2009, 11:44:18 »
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5439604.ece
So what does everyone think to this??

Like to see plod hack my PCs ;D. Not that they're all that secure. ::)

Pure Daily Mail, that article, IMHO. As if they'd go to the (considerable) time and effort to employ hackers instead of just battering the door down with their "special key" and taking what they want.

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« Reply #8 on: 10 January 2009, 11:44:53 »
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5439604.ece
So what does everyone think to this??

As I said before:

"It's all in the name of National Security, so goodbye our Western Liberal Democracy of Liberty and Free Speech!! Grrrrrrrr >:( >:( >:(
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Re: More spying on the British public
« Reply #9 on: 10 January 2009, 11:47:03 »
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I am far from being a computer expert Kevin, but as I understand what I have researched 99% of the World's ISP's are based in California in the dear old USA. ::) ::) ::)

Therefore, who really has control of the Internet and e-mails, especially considering the US military had ownership of the ISP base up until the 1980s/90'?? :-? :-? :-?

Or am I talking out of complete ignorance? ::) ::) ::)   I am very interested to know the truth from those who really know the IT setup. :D :D :D ;)

Whilst the root authorities for allocation of domain names and IP addresses are under US control due to the origins of the internet that's about as far as it goes.

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Re: More spying on the British public
« Reply #10 on: 10 January 2009, 12:02:56 »
RIPA well Herefordshire Council have been using that law thats meant for terrorism to catch people for allsorsts Benefit cheats  mainly though
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« Reply #11 on: 10 January 2009, 12:07:41 »
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I am far from being a computer expert Kevin, but as I understand what I have researched 99% of the World's ISP's are based in California in the dear old USA. ::) ::) ::)

Therefore, who really has control of the Internet and e-mails, especially considering the US military had ownership of the ISP base up until the 1980s/90'?? :-? :-? :-?

Or am I talking out of complete ignorance? ::) ::) ::)   I am very interested to know the truth from those who really know the IT setup. :D :D :D ;)

Whilst the root authorities for allocation of domain names and IP addresses are under US control due to the origins of the internet that's about as far as it goes.

Kevin


Thanks Kevin! ;) ;)

So what you are saying Kevin is that although ISP's are under US control, 'they' (CIA. MI5 etc,) cannot use this to their advantage? :-?

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Re: More spying on the British public
« Reply #12 on: 10 January 2009, 12:13:05 »
What we are saying is that ISP's are not under US control at all.....they can be anywhere.....those that control the registration of domain names etc (i.e. www.omegaowners.com) are mostly based in the US.
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« Reply #13 on: 10 January 2009, 12:52:32 »
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What we are saying is that ISP's are not under US control at all.....they can be anywhere.....those that control the registration of domain names etc (i.e. www.omegaowners.com) are mostly based in the US.


Right, thanks Mark! :y :y

But I read once that Russia was complaining that the ISP's being based in California was a threat to them. ::) ::)  Was that just Politics? :-? :-?
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Re: More spying on the British public
« Reply #14 on: 10 January 2009, 13:07:59 »
More likely to be typical journalism.....i.e. people writing about things they dont know or understand!
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