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[Plomien]

Anyone else here running it?
I installed it today on a secondary boot and it seems quite nice except my webcam won't work (can't get drivers to install)
much better than vista by a long way  

[Welung666]

Anyone else here running it?
I installed it today on a secondary boot and it seems quite nice except my webcam won't work (can't get drivers to install)
much better than vista by a long way  

I've got it running on another machine here, very nice but likewise hardly any driver support at all. It'll stay where it is till that improves.

[cem_devecioglu]

planning..I will totally bypass vista..

[V6 Gix]

I'm going to wait I think till next year when it's properly released. But yeah, you're correct about the lack of driver support, it's not very good at the moment, but as each beta release hits the net driver support will get better.

Remember the nightmare with Vista driver support when it first came out.....nasty.

[TheBoy]

Its not out as a public beta yet, so I guess most people using it are doing so illegally.  We'll find out in a few days when they go to activate it

I'm (un)lucky enough to work for one of the launch partners, so have access to early copies

I like it.  It's pretty much just Vista, with the Aero Window Manager improved a bit further.  I think its a bit much to say its miles better than Vista :-/ - it's Vista with a tweaked (for the better admittedly) Aero.

The drivers should be good, as it uses the Vista driver model, and most reasonably modern hardware has Vista drivers.  Certainly not come across driver issues so far  :-/

For an early beta, I was impressed with the speed. OK, I have a decent machine to run it on (Experience index 4.2, with CPU being 7.1).


I generally think its the right evolution.  It doesn't deserve a new major version number - thats marketting due to resistance to Vista, mainly drummed up by daft journalists who are inept - its more like XP (Windows 5.1) was to Windows 2000 (Windows 5.0), or Windows 2003 (Windows 5.2) to Windows 2000 (Windows 5.0).


However, I think Vista is the best general desktop OS available, so Win7, being Vista with tweaks, should be better.

[TheBoy]

I'm going to wait I think till next year when it's properly released. But yeah, you're correct about the lack of driver support, it's not very good at the moment, but as each beta release hits the net driver support will get better.

Remember the nightmare with Vista driver support when it first came out.....nasty.

Vista used a different driver model (which was optional to XP developers for years), hence the hassle.  As Win7 uses Vista model, no serious driver issues...

[TheBoy]

All that said about how I like the fact it is a slightly better Vista, I will be removing it when I get time, and reverting to Vista until at least b2 or rc versions.

[TheBoy]

Sorry, no discussion of how to bypass or get around the activation, or how to obtain/distribute illegal copies of software.

[Welung666]

Sorry, no discussion of how to bypass or get around the activation, or how to obtain/distribute illegal copies of software.

Sorry  

[mantagte]

released to public on 9th jan from here
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx

[TheBoy]

released to public on 9th jan from here
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx

Ah, my mistake, normally they wait til b2 before public testing

[Gaffers]

as long as the networking has been sorted out!

Thats all I dont like about Vista, pita to sort out networking sometimes otherwise I like it

[TheBoy]

as long as the networking has been sorted out!

Thats all I dont like about Vista, pita to sort out networking sometimes otherwise I like it

Its an improvement on XP networking, which was awful compared to W2k.

Vista network I've never had much hassle with, once I'd found my way around

[sev]

I agree insomuch that wondows 7 from what i've seen and read appears to be what SP2 was to XP.

I've just got my copy of Vista SP1 so i'll be doing a clean install sometime next week, however in truth if it wasn't for the engineering CAD software I use, i'd never have left apple.

I'm running a windows mobile device at the moment, and if they(Microsoft) don't get a decent OS upgrade for that it's pretty much dead in the water in the face of the B/Bery and iPhone and Android (which is looking very promising).

Does Vista have native drivers for wifi cards or must you still download? also, does anyone have any recommendations for a wifi card?

[TheBoy]

I agree insomuch that wondows 7 from what i've seen and read appears to be what SP2 was to XP.

I've just got my copy of Vista SP1 so i'll be doing a clean install sometime next week, however in truth if it wasn't for the engineering CAD software I use, i'd never have left apple.

I'm running a windows mobile device at the moment, and if they(Microsoft) don't get a decent OS upgrade for that it's pretty much dead in the water in the face of the B/Bery and iPhone and Android (which is looking very promising).

Does Vista have native drivers for wifi cards or must you still download? also, does anyone have any recommendations for a wifi card?

WM - Blackberry simply doesn't work, gayPhone is poor once you start using it, Android still go a long way to go.  WM has its faults, but is very usable and very stable (depending on vendor), and is the only 'Smart' OS I'd have on a phone currently.

Vista has native drivers for some older ones - remember it was released 2yrs ago, so driver base probably set 3yrs ago.  The Intel or Broadcom wifis are hard to beat.