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Plea of help from Rover peeps...

Started by TheBoy, 09 January 2007, 21:20:38

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tunnie

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QuoteJaime,

I am coming back this weekend, be back very late Friday night. However if you need a second pair of hands during the weekend, i'd be happy to give some help. Its way past my skills to advise as you know.... but if you need any extra help  :y
Thanks for the kind offer Tunnie :y.

If I need you, I'll give you a bell...

I may pop over to Swindon at some point to look at a Senator, not sure how likely this is at the moment. But i'll be around most of the weekend.

JamesV6CDX

Just for info, I had an "H" reg rover 214 K series in my youthful days when I was 17  (I'm only 23 now, going on 30 :)

The HG blew at bristol, and I had lost all love for the car due to having my 405 diesel sat at home, so drove it with the temp guage on the red for MANY MILES up the motorway!! IT kept going, was gutless.. and when I stopped in the services it blew shedloads of black smoke out the back.. I guessed oil getting through the blown HG!

I thought I'd change it for fun at the time, BUT - a quick skim of the head and a new gasket, it ran fine again!!

Good engines, great mix of power and economy.. the only fault is HGs often blowing, but definately a DIY and cheap job to change.

TheBoy

QuoteJust for info, I had an "H" reg rover 214 K series in my youthful days when I was 17  (I'm only 23 now, going on 30 :)

The HG blew at bristol, and I had lost all love for the car due to having my 405 diesel sat at home, so drove it with the temp guage on the red for MANY MILES up the motorway!! IT kept going, was gutless.. and when I stopped in the services it blew shedloads of black smoke out the back.. I guessed oil getting through the blown HG!

I thought I'd change it for fun at the time, BUT - a quick skim of the head and a new gasket, it ran fine again!!

Good engines, great mix of power and economy.. the only fault is HGs often blowing, but definately a DIY and cheap job to change.

I think the engine is probably not up to performance of more modern designs (though more powerful than the 1.6 Zetec in the Focus we had), but the K series is nearly 20yrs old now...
Grumpy old man

JamesV6CDX

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Agreed, but I still am fond of the old lumps, they make such a nice noise!!

I'm off to bed in a min, but drop me a PM and we'll sort out  a date for changing your HG tomorrow..

Markie

Good Old K series  :-X

Ok not hard to do - least you have space to work.

Yes do belt and tensioners as norm and at least its a single head and its not a vvc.

Skimming......take the head off and have it measured to see if it warped DONT skim it as a matter of course.

If it was run and overcooked then its a probable though.

I take it you have the white spots or gunk on dipstick and in coolant?

Do it yourself and with skimming you will have change from £200. Make sure your new gasket is post 2001 land rover as these are MUCH improved.

Drop me a pm if you need any assistance  :y

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Markie

in fact reading again i am not 101% its hgf.....ive had two Rovers on this and they still drive ( although not recommended) If fact i drove one to Bristol!!

:-/ :-/
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Marks DTM Calib

I am sure.....classic symptoms, the only additional diag I would do is a header tank sniff......
The K series, when considered as a whole....is a well below average engine.....its to weak and lacks low down torque....

Not to bad a job to do though....watch skimming the heads though (not sure of you can on these.....) although I suspect in reality you wont need to.

Plenty of ebay suppliers selling the kits....

Markie

QuoteI am sure.....classic symptoms, the only additional diag I would do is a header tank sniff......
The K series, when considered as a whole....is a well below average engine.....its to weak and lacks low down torque....

Not to bad a job to do though....watch skimming the heads though (not sure of you can on these.....) although I suspect in reality you wont need to.

Plenty of ebay suppliers selling the kits....


you are of course almost probably 100% correct...its just a wierd symptom amoung the 4 or 5 classic symptoms.

still an easy( ish) job to do and not dear  ;)
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TheBoy

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The K series, when considered as a whole....is a well below average engine.....its to weak and lacks low down torque....
Can't comment on its strength, though HG does seem to be a problem area.  Its a revvy engine, and needs to be revved to perform. But then so do 1.6 Zetecs and 1.6 ECOTECs.  Performance (and torque) I would say the K is up there with most of the others, and way better that the Zetec...
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TheBoy

Quotein fact reading again i am not 101% its hgf.....ive had two Rovers on this and they still drive ( although not recommended) If fact i drove one to Bristol!!

:-/ :-/
Last night, I sniffed header tank. Same smell as a very rich running car.

This morning, in daylight, checked a few other bits.  Mayo under cap.  No coolant left in coolant bottle.


Any other test I could do tomorrow in daylight (I'm at home tomorrow)?
Grumpy old man

JamesV6CDX

Sounds very much like HG still dude.

Like I say, if it's not overheated, we'll change the top end gaskets...

How were those dates I Sent?

TheBoy

QuoteSounds very much like HG still dude.

Like I say, if it's not overheated, we'll change the top end gaskets...

How were those dates I Sent?
I replied to email, but need to reply again (work commitments  >:()
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TheBoy

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QuoteSounds very much like HG still dude.

Like I say, if it's not overheated, we'll change the top end gaskets...

How were those dates I Sent?
I replied to email, but need to reply again (work commitments  >:()
New email sent.

The half day may be a problem, the the other 2 full days are fine :) :y
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JamesV6CDX

Cool..

Can't check my mail right at the minute, but lets aim to do it across those two full days then.

We'll have to take a few pics to post up  :P

TheBoy

Quote#We'll have to take a few pics to post up  :P
Absolutely ;)

We'll convert this Omega lot to Rover. Not.
Grumpy old man