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X-Box 360 graphics problem
« on: 19 February 2009, 20:04:16 »
My son's xbox360 is starting to play up now!  the graphics are starting to look like this!



It is out of standard warranty (of course!) - anyone had any similar issues?  I suspect it is the GPU - have tried it with the PS3's HDMI cable, but same image problem.

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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #1 on: 19 February 2009, 20:22:58 »
I suspect you are right.

This might be worth a surf on some xbox forums. I ignored all advice regarding towels. But mine did seem to last longer before it went like that if I stood it on its side...
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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #2 on: 19 February 2009, 20:26:11 »
Is this when the X-clamps need replacing  :-/
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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #3 on: 19 February 2009, 20:51:35 »
best place for help is www.360-hq.com i find them really help full on 360 related things :)
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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #4 on: 19 February 2009, 21:04:40 »
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I suspect you are right.

This might be worth a surf on some xbox forums. I ignored all advice regarding towels. But mine did seem to last longer before it went like that if I stood it on its side...

that actually works temporarily
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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #5 on: 19 February 2009, 21:10:52 »
tbh I'd just bake it with a towel, if its out of standard warranty, cause it to seriously overheat till you red ring it & then get it fixed for free :)

otherwise, standard M$ repair fee is £85 iirc...  regardless of fault...
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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #6 on: 20 February 2009, 11:16:37 »
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I suspect you are right.

This might be worth a surf on some xbox forums. I ignored all advice regarding towels. But mine did seem to last longer before it went like that if I stood it on its side...

that actually works temporarily

I have seen a number of references to towels on the xbox forums, but none saying what it is.  Is this just blocking the vents to fry the thing?
will this guarantee the 3 flashing red rings that will prompt MS to fix it for free? :-?
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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #7 on: 20 February 2009, 11:22:53 »
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I suspect you are right.

This might be worth a surf on some xbox forums. I ignored all advice regarding towels. But mine did seem to last longer before it went like that if I stood it on its side...

that actually works temporarily

I have seen a number of references to towels on the xbox forums, but none saying what it is.  Is this just blocking the vents to fry the thing?
will this guarantee the 3 flashing red rings that will prompt MS to fix it for free? :-?
The towel trick is to very seriously overheat the CPU and GPU (mounted near each other) in the hope that the thermal stresses will make contact again.  Obviously, its never going to be permenent fix.

Its possible you could cook it enough to get the red ring, thus changed under warranty.  Have you anything to lose?

As for standard repair costs, they can be bought brand new for under £100, complete with12 month warranty ;)
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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #8 on: 20 February 2009, 12:48:09 »
[/quote] The towel trick is to very seriously overheat the CPU and GPU (mounted near each other) in the hope that the thermal stresses will make contact again.  Obviously, its never going to be permenent fix.

Its possible you could cook it enough to get the red ring, thus changed under warranty.  Have you anything to lose?

As for standard repair costs, they can be bought brand new for under £100, complete with12 month warranty ;) [/quote]

where can you get them for under £100?
« Last Edit: 20 February 2009, 12:48:44 by Tonygnome »
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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #9 on: 20 February 2009, 13:03:16 »
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where can you get them for under £100?
Colleague picked one up for £99 to replace a Live banned one - one of the ones that RRP at 129, he only needed the basic console apparently. This was around Christmas time (not sure if just before or just after)
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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #10 on: 20 February 2009, 13:07:38 »
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I suspect you are right.

This might be worth a surf on some xbox forums. I ignored all advice regarding towels. But mine did seem to last longer before it went like that if I stood it on its side...

that actually works temporarily

I have seen a number of references to towels on the xbox forums, but none saying what it is.  Is this just blocking the vents to fry the thing?
will this guarantee the 3 flashing red rings that will prompt MS to fix it for free? :-?
The towel trick is to very seriously overheat the CPU and GPU (mounted near each other) in the hope that the thermal stresses will make contact again.  Obviously, its never going to be permenent fix.

Its possible you could cook it enough to get the red ring, thus changed under warranty.  Have you anything to lose?

As for standard repair costs, they can be bought brand new for under £100, complete with12 month warranty ;)

So if I understand this correctly, the thermal paste has ceased to function between the cooling and the chip (CPU, GPU) causing it to overtemp and exhibit the problems in the picture in the first post.

If this is correct, then isn't the best approach to buy a tube of thermal paste and renew this on the contact points?

or am I missing something?
« Last Edit: 20 February 2009, 13:08:32 by Allenm »
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« Reply #11 on: 20 February 2009, 13:12:03 »
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I suspect you are right.

This might be worth a surf on some xbox forums. I ignored all advice regarding towels. But mine did seem to last longer before it went like that if I stood it on its side...

that actually works temporarily

I have seen a number of references to towels on the xbox forums, but none saying what it is.  Is this just blocking the vents to fry the thing?
will this guarantee the 3 flashing red rings that will prompt MS to fix it for free? :-?
The towel trick is to very seriously overheat the CPU and GPU (mounted near each other) in the hope that the thermal stresses will make contact again.  Obviously, its never going to be permenent fix.

Its possible you could cook it enough to get the red ring, thus changed under warranty.  Have you anything to lose?

As for standard repair costs, they can be bought brand new for under £100, complete with12 month warranty ;)

So if I understand this correctly, the thermal paste has ceased to function between the cooling and the chip (CPU, GPU) causing it to overtemp and exhibit the problems in the picture in the first post.

If this is correct, then isn't the best approach to buy a tube of thermal paste and renew this on the contact points?

or am I missing something?
I understand the issue to be overheating and associated thermal stresses creating poor connections between CPU/GPU and PCB...
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« Reply #12 on: 20 February 2009, 13:19:40 »
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I suspect you are right.

This might be worth a surf on some xbox forums. I ignored all advice regarding towels. But mine did seem to last longer before it went like that if I stood it on its side...

that actually works temporarily

I have seen a number of references to towels on the xbox forums, but none saying what it is.  Is this just blocking the vents to fry the thing?
will this guarantee the 3 flashing red rings that will prompt MS to fix it for free? :-?
The towel trick is to very seriously overheat the CPU and GPU (mounted near each other) in the hope that the thermal stresses will make contact again.  Obviously, its never going to be permenent fix.

Its possible you could cook it enough to get the red ring, thus changed under warranty.  Have you anything to lose?

As for standard repair costs, they can be bought brand new for under £100, complete with12 month warranty ;)

So if I understand this correctly, the thermal paste has ceased to function between the cooling and the chip (CPU, GPU) causing it to overtemp and exhibit the problems in the picture in the first post.

If this is correct, then isn't the best approach to buy a tube of thermal paste and renew this on the contact points?

or am I missing something?
I understand the issue to be overheating and associated thermal stresses creating poor connections between CPU/GPU and PCB...

Right, got you!,  so if the thing doesn't produce the free fix red ring business, then its out with the soldering iron time,  damn thing is nothing but a pc anyway!
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I suspect you are right.

This might be worth a surf on some xbox forums. I ignored all advice regarding towels. But mine did seem to last longer before it went like that if I stood it on its side...

that actually works temporarily

I have seen a number of references to towels on the xbox forums, but none saying what it is.  Is this just blocking the vents to fry the thing?
will this guarantee the 3 flashing red rings that will prompt MS to fix it for free? :-?
The towel trick is to very seriously overheat the CPU and GPU (mounted near each other) in the hope that the thermal stresses will make contact again.  Obviously, its never going to be permenent fix.

Its possible you could cook it enough to get the red ring, thus changed under warranty.  Have you anything to lose?

As for standard repair costs, they can be bought brand new for under £100, complete with12 month warranty ;)

So if I understand this correctly, the thermal paste has ceased to function between the cooling and the chip (CPU, GPU) causing it to overtemp and exhibit the problems in the picture in the first post.

If this is correct, then isn't the best approach to buy a tube of thermal paste and renew this on the contact points?

or am I missing something?
I understand the issue to be overheating and associated thermal stresses creating poor connections between CPU/GPU and PCB...

Right, got you!,  so if the thing doesn't produce the free fix red ring business, then its out with the soldering iron time,  damn thing is nothing but a pc anyway!
i believe tonygnome is the xbox360 expert here...  ...my xbox has never been on long enough to overheat ;D
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Re: X-Box 360 graphics problem
« Reply #14 on: 20 February 2009, 13:25:47 »
My son has just fixed his with a simple kit he got from Ebay.
Going to fix another this weekend, his stopped working altogether.
Can get the info for you if you want? I don't know much about them it's just what he beeen telling me about them.

Mick
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