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nick v6

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advice needed about auto car
« on: 23 February 2009, 08:06:02 »

as you already know ann has got the tigra and se has tried and tried to drive it and is having trouble multi tasking with the gears and clutch
i've tried every trick i know to help her to drive it i even tell her when to press the clutch and i change the gears

she is now thinking on if to goto a automatic or not but i told her if she passes in a auto she can only drive auto's

she is looking for a automatic tigra
any advice anyone on if she should sell the tigra she got to go for auto

or any advice to help me teach her or is there anyone willing to give it a go on teaching her in a manual

she has had driving lessons with driving instructors and said she was ok but those cars have all been diesels and she had help when she needed it with the dual control
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #1 on: 23 February 2009, 08:36:01 »

is it stalling on pull-away, or general gear changing.

unless there is a good reason not to, persist with the manual (even if you have to get a diesel fester or corsa)
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #2 on: 23 February 2009, 08:41:44 »

Not much help but I learned to drive when I was about 11 driving round my friends farm. He also had a scrap yard so you learnt clutch control really quickly in a Viva with very little floor left!!!  ;D

Seriously, I think it may be worth looking at another qualified instructor. In a dual control car the learner can start to learn more about the brakes and steering before attempting using the clutch.

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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #3 on: 23 February 2009, 08:48:55 »

The biggest issue here is clutch control, not multi tasking as you are now facing the trouble of having learned in a diesel!

Stick with it, it will come (quite quickly).
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #4 on: 23 February 2009, 09:03:09 »

its stalling not geting the clutch biting right and she to me drives on the bonnet if you know what i mean
when it comes to a turning into a junction she will not change down before the corner or brake so she hits the corner at 30mph in 4th gear then brakes at the corner and not change gear so when she does get round the corner she is still in 4th gear at 10mph and the car is jumping around

she tends to over shoot a right hand turn and ends up the kerb
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #5 on: 23 February 2009, 09:07:18 »

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its stalling not geting the clutch biting right and she to me drives on the bonnet if you know what i mean
when it comes to a turning into a junction she will not change down before the corner or brake so she hits the corner at 30mph in 4th gear then brakes at the corner and not change gear so when she does get round the corner she is still in 4th gear at 10mph and the car is jumping around

she tends to over shoot a right hand turn and ends up the kerb

Its more fundamental than the gears then!

Stick with it, find a quiet road and just keep driving off and then slowing down using the gears.
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #6 on: 23 February 2009, 09:07:29 »

1)  Never, but NEVER, teach the missus to drive !!! It is totally unworkable -- get an instructor she will listen to ( it's an ingrained habit not to take any notice of the old man! )

2) persist with the manual -- it won't cut her future car choice in half

3) It will all click into place, all of a sudden, and TBH a Tigra is not the best car to be learning in.
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #7 on: 23 February 2009, 09:09:02 »

there is a estate by where the daughter goes to school very quiet and alot of speed humps
i don't like to drive round there due to speed humps but i think it might help with clutch control braking and gear change what do you think
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« Reply #8 on: 23 February 2009, 09:10:22 »

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1)  Never, but NEVER, teach the missus to drive !!! It is totally unworkable -- get an instructor she will listen to ( it's an ingrained habit not to take any notice of the old man! )

2) persist with the manual -- it won't cut her future car choice in half

3) It will all click into place, all of a sudden, and TBH a Tigra is not the best car to be learning in.

the thing i find about the tigra is that the gear stick is so low to the floor and the gears are very close together
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #9 on: 23 February 2009, 09:25:03 »

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1)  Never, but NEVER, teach the missus to drive !!! It is totally unworkable -- get an instructor she will listen to ( it's an ingrained habit not to take any notice of the old man! )

2) persist with the manual -- it won't cut her future car choice in half

3) It will all click into place, all of a sudden, and TBH a Tigra is not the best car to be learning in.

the thing i find about the tigra is that the gear stick is so low to the floor and the gears are very close together

Which should have minimal impact on the ability to learn to drive in a  car.

Excuses are easy to find, reality is that it needs patience and effort.
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #10 on: 23 February 2009, 09:25:42 »

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there is a estate by where the daughter goes to school very quiet and alot of speed humps
i don't like to drive round there due to speed humps but i think it might help with clutch control braking and gear change what do you think


Yep, give it a go.

I learn't on quiet country roads (at a young age ::))
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #11 on: 23 February 2009, 09:26:38 »

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1)  Never, but NEVER, teach the missus to drive !!! It is totally unworkable -- get an instructor she will listen to ( it's an ingrained habit not to take any notice of the old man! )

2) persist with the manual -- it won't cut her future car choice in half

3) It will all click into place, all of a sudden, and TBH a Tigra is not the best car to be learning in.

the thing i find about the tigra is that the gear stick is so low to the floor and the gears are very close together

Which should have minimal impact on the ability to learn to drive in a  car.

Excuses are easy to find, reality is that it needs patience and effort.

i don't have any problem but ann seems to think that she cant find the gears that the gear stick has to go alot further
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #12 on: 23 February 2009, 09:27:19 »

When learning anything you need to focus on enough things to challenge, but, throw too many things in to worry about and you don't make progress. It's just demoralising and overwhelming.

Take out the cornering and the other traffic. Find somewhere straight and quiet (e.g Business park at the weekend) and concentrate, as said, on moving off, changing speed and stopping using the gears correctly. Once that's progressing you can start throwing in some corners, practicing adjusting the speed on the run up to the corner, with correct use of the gears.

TBH, if at all possible, it's probably best left to a driving instructor for tthe reasons already cited.

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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #13 on: 23 February 2009, 09:28:57 »

she can do it
when she drove me to the hospital which was the first time she drove the car she did do well had a few problems with stalling etc
i eep saying to her it wont happen over night it takes time

it don't help the fact that the driving instructor she had told her to change down gears after the corner not before the corner like i tell her which to me makes more sense to change down before the corner
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Re: advice needed about auto car
« Reply #14 on: 23 February 2009, 09:29:06 »

Tigra gearhshift etc is the same as a Corsa.

Like I said, stick with it.

Get her to sit in the car for 10 mins at a time just running the gear lever through all the cogs whilst looking throught the window to improve familiarity with the position.
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