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Re: Typical
« Reply #15 on: 24 February 2009, 22:38:24 »

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Yeah.  I was going to call him and tell him to get in early to kick it, but I'm not available in the morning as am busy doing a DNS infrastructure change out, which if it goes wrong, will affect 8m UK users...

Sounds like you work for a similar company i look after.....i really dont see the problem if the data centre over heats....least it keeps me warm. ;D
Very rare we have environmental issues at any of our UK datacentres. Don't have many dealings with non-UK ones so can't comment.
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« Reply #16 on: 24 February 2009, 22:45:17 »

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very close..you are lucky.. :y
Yeah.  I was going to call him and tell him to get in early to kick it, but I'm not available in the morning as am busy doing a DNS infrastructure change out, which if it goes wrong, will affect 8m UK users...

Sounds like you work for a similar company i look after.....i really dont see the problem if the data centre over heats....least it keeps me warm. ;D
Very rare we have environmental issues at any of our UK datacentres. Don't have many dealings with non-UK ones so can't comment.

No we dont now days now its housed in special room...way beyond me. :)

Mind you was funny when the leccy board tried too disconnect mains power (before the generator was up and running).....think blood would have been spilt if they had. ;D ;D
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Re: Typical
« Reply #17 on: 24 February 2009, 22:53:01 »

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very close..you are lucky.. :y
Yeah.  I was going to call him and tell him to get in early to kick it, but I'm not available in the morning as am busy doing a DNS infrastructure change out, which if it goes wrong, will affect 8m UK users...

Sounds like you work for a similar company i look after.....i really dont see the problem if the data centre over heats....least it keeps me warm. ;D
Very rare we have environmental issues at any of our UK datacentres. Don't have many dealings with non-UK ones so can't comment.

Although by comparison to some it's not a huge DataCentre - but I used to work for a business focused ISP in their NOC  / Comms, before I took my current job in the NHS.

I'll never forget I was alone on a nightshift, the power failed, and the generator never started. Turns out the changeover panel had fried.

I managed to get the Jenny manually fired up, when the UPS's were reading less than 1 minute before the DC lost power.

Close call  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #18 on: 24 February 2009, 22:53:34 »

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very close..you are lucky.. :y
Yeah.  I was going to call him and tell him to get in early to kick it, but I'm not available in the morning as am busy doing a DNS infrastructure change out, which if it goes wrong, will affect 8m UK users...

Sounds like you work for a similar company i look after.....i really dont see the problem if the data centre over heats....least it keeps me warm. ;D
Very rare we have environmental issues at any of our UK datacentres. Don't have many dealings with non-UK ones so can't comment.

No we dont now days now its housed in special room...way beyond me. :)

Mind you was funny when the leccy board tried too disconnect mains power (before the generator was up and running).....think blood would have been spilt if they had. ;D ;D
The nearest datacenter to me - ie the one across the road ::) has enough battery power to run for about an hour on UPS (1000+ servers), and each of the 6 generators onsite can alledgedly power a small town.  Some critical stuff in there  :-X. Most of the other datacenters I don't get to too often, do most stuff remotely, from the comfort of my own home or from the office if I go in ::)

We lost one of our Internet DCs went offline a few years ago (a pdu went down when its partner was offline having scheduled maintenence).  Oh, there was hell to pay over than one - felt sorry for the sparkies, it wasn't their fault....
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Re: Typical
« Reply #19 on: 24 February 2009, 22:54:54 »

On the subject of environmental issues, the internal air handlers were awful, always breaking down. The external chillers were in an open car park and always switched off by local kids, for devilment!!

The ISP was too tight to build an enclosure around them.

How they ever get away with advertising that DC as N+1 is beyond me - it's most certainly not!
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« Reply #20 on: 24 February 2009, 22:56:02 »

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very close..you are lucky.. :y
Yeah.  I was going to call him and tell him to get in early to kick it, but I'm not available in the morning as am busy doing a DNS infrastructure change out, which if it goes wrong, will affect 8m UK users...

Sounds like you work for a similar company i look after.....i really dont see the problem if the data centre over heats....least it keeps me warm. ;D
Very rare we have environmental issues at any of our UK datacentres. Don't have many dealings with non-UK ones so can't comment.

No we dont now days now its housed in special room...way beyond me. :)

Mind you was funny when the leccy board tried too disconnect mains power (before the generator was up and running).....think blood would have been spilt if they had. ;D ;D
The nearest datacenter to me - ie the one across the road ::) has enough battery power to run for about an hour on UPS (1000+ servers), and each of the 6 generators onsite can alledgedly power a small town.  Some critical stuff in there  :-X. Most of the other datacenters I don't get to too often, do most stuff remotely, from the comfort of my own home or from the office if I go in ::)

We lost one of our Internet DCs went offline a few years ago (a pdu went down when its partner was offline having scheduled maintenence).  Oh, there was hell to pay over than one - felt sorry for the sparkies, it wasn't their fault....


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Re: Typical
« Reply #21 on: 24 February 2009, 22:57:04 »

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very close..you are lucky.. :y
Yeah.  I was going to call him and tell him to get in early to kick it, but I'm not available in the morning as am busy doing a DNS infrastructure change out, which if it goes wrong, will affect 8m UK users...

Sounds like you work for a similar company i look after.....i really dont see the problem if the data centre over heats....least it keeps me warm. ;D
Very rare we have environmental issues at any of our UK datacentres. Don't have many dealings with non-UK ones so can't comment.

Although by comparison to some it's not a huge DataCentre - but I used to work for a business focused ISP in their NOC  / Comms, before I took my current job in the NHS.

I'll never forget I was alone on a nightshift, the power failed, and the generator never started. Turns out the changeover panel had fried.

I managed to get the Jenny manually fired up, when the UPS's were reading less than 1 minute before the DC lost power.

Close call  ;D ;D ;D
I remember when I worked for BT, there was some work being done on a concentrator (a vital part of the regional phone network), all stuff had been offloaded to another one. It was some power test.  Sparkies connected it up wrong way round and killed it, but also a load of other stuff.  Whole area out for several hours ;D
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Re: Typical
« Reply #22 on: 24 February 2009, 22:57:17 »

Well i used too wonder why the IT geeks umm guys used too flap and panic so much when a server went down ot generator was being looked at until someone mentioned that 1 server alone generated something like 250k hourly....if it wasn't for the fact he was the data centre manager id have laughed.

Kinda too things a bit more serious after that. ;D
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« Reply #23 on: 24 February 2009, 22:58:01 »

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very close..you are lucky.. :y
Yeah.  I was going to call him and tell him to get in early to kick it, but I'm not available in the morning as am busy doing a DNS infrastructure change out, which if it goes wrong, will affect 8m UK users...

Sounds like you work for a similar company i look after.....i really dont see the problem if the data centre over heats....least it keeps me warm. ;D
Very rare we have environmental issues at any of our UK datacentres. Don't have many dealings with non-UK ones so can't comment.

No we dont now days now its housed in special room...way beyond me. :)

Mind you was funny when the leccy board tried too disconnect mains power (before the generator was up and running).....think blood would have been spilt if they had. ;D ;D
The nearest datacenter to me - ie the one across the road ::) has enough battery power to run for about an hour on UPS (1000+ servers), and each of the 6 generators onsite can alledgedly power a small town.  Some critical stuff in there  :-X. Most of the other datacenters I don't get to too often, do most stuff remotely, from the comfort of my own home or from the office if I go in ::)

We lost one of our Internet DCs went offline a few years ago (a pdu went down when its partner was offline having scheduled maintenence).  Oh, there was hell to pay over than one - felt sorry for the sparkies, it wasn't their fault....


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Re: Typical
« Reply #24 on: 24 February 2009, 23:00:15 »

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Well i used too wonder why the IT geeks umm guys used too flap and panic so much when a server went down ot generator was being looked at until someone mentioned that 1 server alone generated something like 250k hourly....if it wasn't for the fact he was the data centre manager id have laughed.

Kinda too things a bit more serious after that. ;D
One of the platforms I used to look after - which many ISP workers here will be very familiar with - for a few hours every month used to generate £1m per minute apparently :o

No wonder the pager went ape when that platform fell over...
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« Reply #25 on: 24 February 2009, 23:03:34 »

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I managed to get the Jenny manually fired up, when the UPS's were reading less than 1 minute before the DC lost power.

Close call  ;D ;D ;D

As someone once said - always carry a spare crank sensor... ;D

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« Reply #26 on: 24 February 2009, 23:08:56 »

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Well i used too wonder why the IT geeks umm guys used too flap and panic so much when a server went down ot generator was being looked at until someone mentioned that 1 server alone generated something like 250k hourly....if it wasn't for the fact he was the data centre manager id have laughed.

Kinda too things a bit more serious after that. ;D
One of the platforms I used to look after - which many ISP workers here will be very familiar with - for a few hours every month used to generate £1m per minute apparently :o

No wonder the pager went ape when that platform fell over...

Frightening really.... :)

If these servers (blades) what ever there called were stolen is the data accessible....only ask as these lot hold software for large financial institutions and billing software ect.

Not planning on robbing the place just curious.
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« Reply #27 on: 24 February 2009, 23:14:29 »

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Well i used too wonder why the IT geeks umm guys used too flap and panic so much when a server went down ot generator was being looked at until someone mentioned that 1 server alone generated something like 250k hourly....if it wasn't for the fact he was the data centre manager id have laughed.

Kinda too things a bit more serious after that. ;D
One of the platforms I used to look after - which many ISP workers here will be very familiar with - for a few hours every month used to generate £1m per minute apparently :o

No wonder the pager went ape when that platform fell over...

Frightening really.... :)

If these servers (blades) what ever there called were stolen is the data accessible....only ask as these lot hold software for large financial institutions and billing software ect.

Not planning on robbing the place just curious.
Generally with blades, the storage will be SAN - and the 'LUN' is spread over many physical disks, so unless you lift the whole SAN (which will be several cabinets worth), you're safe.  Though you'd have to get past the physical site security.


The risk assessments show the biggest intentional threats for our sites are from terrorist incidents, so UK critical stuff is geographically resilient.
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« Reply #28 on: 24 February 2009, 23:52:37 »

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Well i used too wonder why the IT geeks umm guys used too flap and panic so much when a server went down ot generator was being looked at until someone mentioned that 1 server alone generated something like 250k hourly....if it wasn't for the fact he was the data centre manager id have laughed.

Kinda too things a bit more serious after that. ;D
One of the platforms I used to look after - which many ISP workers here will be very familiar with - for a few hours every month used to generate £1m per minute apparently :o

No wonder the pager went ape when that platform fell over...

Frightening really.... :)

If these servers (blades) what ever there called were stolen is the data accessible....only ask as these lot hold software for large financial institutions and billing software ect.

Not planning on robbing the place just curious.
Generally with blades, the storage will be SAN - and the 'LUN' is spread over many physical disks, so unless you lift the whole SAN (which will be several cabinets worth), you're safe.  Though you'd have to get past the physical site security.


The risk assessments show the biggest intentional threats for our sites are from terrorist incidents, so UK critical stuff is geographically resilient.

Im assuming there called blades...about 6in deep and 3 foot square from memory and racks and racks of them.

Always wonderd why they went too the extent too physicaly protect them.....mind you the physical site security well we dont get paid enough too argue. ;D

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« Reply #29 on: 25 February 2009, 08:30:30 »

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Well i used too wonder why the IT geeks umm guys used too flap and panic so much when a server went down ot generator was being looked at until someone mentioned that 1 server alone generated something like 250k hourly....if it wasn't for the fact he was the data centre manager id have laughed.

Kinda too things a bit more serious after that. ;D
One of the platforms I used to look after - which many ISP workers here will be very familiar with - for a few hours every month used to generate £1m per minute apparently :o

No wonder the pager went ape when that platform fell over...

Frightening really.... :)

If these servers (blades) what ever there called were stolen is the data accessible....only ask as these lot hold software for large financial institutions and billing software ect.

Not planning on robbing the place just curious.
Generally with blades, the storage will be SAN - and the 'LUN' is spread over many physical disks, so unless you lift the whole SAN (which will be several cabinets worth), you're safe.  Though you'd have to get past the physical site security.


The risk assessments show the biggest intentional threats for our sites are from terrorist incidents, so UK critical stuff is geographically resilient.

Im assuming there called blades...about 6in deep and 3 foot square from memory and racks and racks of them.

Always wonderd why they went too the extent too physicaly protect them.....mind you the physical site security well we dont get paid enough too argue. ;D

yup. thats a blade :y

our places the physical security is enough so the security guards can call for assistance before the scumbags can get in
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