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[TheBoy]

my road riding is fine, on the way to test centre, instructor said i did not miss a thing, it was all spot on.

i got the hardest U turn, the road had a camber on it. After test went up to a housing estate. guess what, first U turn i did was perfect!

thats the way it is - sounds like confidence is what let you down.  camber makes no real difference, don't let those sort of thoughts enter your head

[tunnie]

my road riding is fine, on the way to test centre, instructor said i did not miss a thing, it was all spot on.

i got the hardest U turn, the road had a camber on it. After test went up to a housing estate. guess what, first U turn i did was perfect!

thats the way it is - sounds like confidence is what let you down.  camber makes no real difference, don't let those sort of thoughts enter your head

camber was noticable, and it was down into the turn, so as i went, it ran away further from me than normal, in the housing estate, i had the confidence to really drive it out of the turn.

[TheBoy]

my road riding is fine, on the way to test centre, instructor said i did not miss a thing, it was all spot on.

i got the hardest U turn, the road had a camber on it. After test went up to a housing estate. guess what, first U turn i did was perfect!

thats the way it is - sounds like confidence is what let you down.  camber makes no real difference, don't let those sort of thoughts enter your head

camber was noticable, and it was down into the turn, so as i went, it ran away further from me than normal, in the housing estate, i had the confidence to really drive it out of the turn.

Nope, its all in the head, hence why don't even think about things like the camber.

[albitz]

Shame the lock on the ZX10 is so poor, else I'd ask the neighbour for the rugby club carpark

But pointless trying on that - it physically cannot manage the u-turns required on tests

My old gpz750 was the same,the only bike that I regularily had do do 3 point turns on,heavy old lump as well.
I would advise to stick with what you are doing Tunnie,its simply a matter of practice.when you have done it enough times it becomes second nature and you stop worrying about it.Would help if you could practice away from the training test situation without pressure.

[LaserLance]

Best bit of advice i was given was to look at where you want to go , keep looking up never get fixated on a spot ,cos you will end up at that place ie in a ditch or a hedge

[TheBoy]

Best bit of advice i was given was to look at where you want to go , keep looking up never get fixated on a spot ,cos you will end up at that place ie in a ditch or a hedge

Seen someone look at a ditch at 70 (*cough*) mph going around a corner...  ...guess what!

This was on my DAS course!

[Elite Pete]

Practice make perfect Tunnie, stick with the 500

[mantagte]

bad luck
better luck next time
stay with the 500

[Marks DTM Calib]

You will struggle on that manoeuver because of your build and lack of general strength!

[albitz]

Dont agree,Im similar build.Its not about strength its about balance/throttle control and confidence (which for some people requires a lot of practice)

[hotel21]

You will struggle on that manoeuver because of your build and lack of general strength!

Its technique not body mass thats required.  

Look well ahead into the turn, not three feet in front of the wheel as its where you want to end up thats important, not how you get there.

Shifting your body weight to the outside of the turn (backside across the seat) lets you turn the bike tighter into the turn via the handle bars and, I find the most important, TURN YOUR HEAD to where you'r going....

I managed the test turns etc on my FJ1200 but, that said, been riding bikes for a couple of months more than you......  

[Black Knight]

Aye, it's all about throttle control.

That and nerves.

[Martin_1962]

but failed  

I put my foot down in the turn in the road  

So annoyed as on Sundays training i was doing them all perfect, time and time again. The bugger was my test was at 8AM  

So i had no time to warm up really, i managed to get a couple of turns in but i messed most of them up.

There is also a new test guy there, and he is a 'by the book' man picking up on everything.

That said, i only got 6 minors on the whole of the test (which was in rush hour), it was just my darn turn in the road  

Got re-test in 2 weeks, this time its at lunch time  8-)

Thinking of taking the test on a 125 instead of the 500, they are much easier to turn, all it means is i am restricted to 35bhp or something for 2 years, and would only shave 10mph of the top end of the ER5's which i am learning on.

Like hell.  ER5 good for about 110mph with a fatty like me. CG125 good for around 55mph.  I make that 55mph off the top end

I struggled with the u-turn, just keep at it.  I had no minors though  :-/

CG125s are slugs!

[Martin_1962]

yeah i can't see any problem with restricting a bike, it will make hardly any difference really, just loose a bit of top end.

I would not want to ride a 125 normally, 60 flat out is not enough. The ER5's cruise nicely at normal speeds.

And at £80 per test, i want to pass!

How easy to derestrict ?

[feeutfo]

unlucky Tuns. Just practice mate.
It depends on the lock of course but i found keeping it on full lock and adjusting your balance with just throttle and brake a good exercise. If more is lock needed give it gas to stop you dabbing.
And brake if it turns out. Much harder with less lock though.

Can you do a lesson on that bike in the mean time and do the course again?