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[Omega man 2]

Is vtec overrated and overplayed by boyacers?

99% of all vtec (or at least cars with vtec written on the side) over here are around 1.4 and compared to a v6 have p1ss poor performance.

My cousin dropped up last week in his 1.3 vtec civic and said it would wipe the floor with my mig. A point that was soon corrected

Anyway, I thought Japanese hatchbcks were for economy??? and are massivly overhyped.

[Marks DTM Calib]

It works well but, you end up with a screamer on these smaller engines which boast high BHP figures but no low down torque!

[Andy B]

Is vtec overrated and overplayed by boyacers?

99% of all vtec (or at least cars with vtec written on the side) over here are around 1.4 and compared to a v6 have p1ss poor performance.

My cousin dropped up last week in his 1.3 vtec civic and said it would wipe the floor with my mig. A point that was soon corrected

Anyway, I thought Japanese hatchbcks were for economy??? and are massivly overhyped.

The FTO Mivec (Mitsibishi's vtec) that my brother had could move well. Still no substitute for [size=8](Senator)[/size] cubes though!        

[tyreburner]

My mrs's 2.2 prelude vtec will ..... i am ashamed to say ,beat a 3.0 mig BUT she has a mugen manifold and a straight thru exhaust and it REALLY kicks off !

So i dont know about the smaller ones but the 2.2 is definately a force to be reckoned with  

Just from personal experience of course before i get banned or lose my post count etc  8-)

[TheBoy]

The Honda vtecs go well for their capacity, but you have to scream the nuts off them. Obviously, no match for a well serviced v6

[Andy B]

The Honda vtecs go well for their capacity, but you have to scream the nuts off them. Obviously, no match for a well serviced v6

It depends where you're going to play. Small go faster hot hatches etc will leave an auto Omega for dead at the Traffic light Grande Prix, but one you've got 1700kg of Omega moving, then you're going to rapidly gain on them. 'Playing' on the motorway stacks the odds up more in favour of the Omega.

[tyreburner]

The Honda vtecs go well for their capacity, but you have to scream the nuts off them. Obviously, no match for a well serviced v6

It depends where you're going to play. Small go faster hot hatches etc will leave an auto Omega for dead at the Traffic light Grande Prix, but one you've got 1700kg of Omega moving, then you're going to rapidly gain on them. 'Playing' on the motorway stacks the odds up more in favour of the Omega.

Funny hers seems to be well balanced as its their off the lights as mentioned but its there right the way up to and beyond motorway speeds, but being an import you cant tell what its had done to it!!

[jerry]

Dont knock old school vtec!! My last car was a jap import prelude J reg with the first of the 2.2 vtec engines. An auto, its torque figure was nothing to write home about, but in std form it made 197bhp. I did a few light mods by fitting a cda induction kit, sports exhaust , magnecore leads and iridium plugs and got it remapped with a dastek unichip which altered the vtec actuation point to around 3000revs. As an auto she redlined at about 6400 as opposed to 7000 but still did 0-60 in 6.5 secs and made 183bhp at the wheel . The vtec wont kick in straight away as oil pressure and engine temp need to be at correct point first but the feel of your head hitting the headrest as it kicks in and the car surges ... :yOh, no turbo lag either to worry about. Top speed wouldve been about 130mph, tho as an auto I couldnt get it delimited from the standard jap limit of 112mph. A great car to drive with (as fwd) good road holding. Much heavier than the Integra of course but then it had a few more creature comforts. Only downside was small boot and back seats designed for midgets!

[TheBoy]

The Honda vtecs go well for their capacity, but you have to scream the nuts off them. Obviously, no match for a well serviced v6

It depends where you're going to play. Small go faster hot hatches etc will leave an auto Omega for dead at the Traffic light Grande Prix, but one you've got 1700kg of Omega moving, then you're going to rapidly gain on them. 'Playing' on the motorway stacks the odds up more in favour of the Omega.

My MV6 Auto is 7.7s 0-60 on my dodgy timing without lauch starting it.  I have embarrassed a Type-R civic who thought he was quicker than he was

Haven't been able to get a good launched start timing for the tractor, as every time I do it, the revs go up, the speedo goes up, but the car doesn't move.  Then I phone up Black Circles, and give them my credit card number

[tyreburner]

Dont knock old school vtec!! My last car was a jap import prelude J reg with the first of the 2.2 vtec engines. An auto, its torque figure was nothing to write home about, but in std form it made 197bhp. I did a few light mods by fitting a cda induction kit, sports exhaust , magnecore leads and iridium plugs and got it remapped with a dastek unichip which altered the vtec actuation point to around 3000revs. As an auto she redlined at about 6400 as opposed to 7000 but still did 0-60 in 6.5 secs and made 183bhp at the wheel . The vtec wont kick in straight away as oil pressure and engine temp need to be at correct point first but the feel of your head hitting the headrest as it kicks in and the car surges ... :yOh, no turbo lag either to worry about. Top speed wouldve been about 130mph, tho as an auto I couldnt get it delimited from the standard jap limit of 112mph. A great car to drive with (as fwd) good road holding. Much heavier than the Integra of course but then it had a few more creature comforts. Only downside was small boot and back seats designed for midgets!

Why couldnt you get it delimited as an auto?
I have had 125 out of hers ( on a private road very similar to the a69   ) and thats an auto, i also know what you mean about temp etc, when engine is warming up it wont vtec until the temperature is high enough to safe gaurd the engine And you can guarantee the boy racers wanna play when the engine is cold  

[Omega man 2]

The Honda vtecs go well for their capacity, but you have to scream the nuts off them. Obviously, no match for a well serviced v6

It depends where you're going to play. Small go faster hot hatches etc will leave an auto Omega for dead at the Traffic light Grande Prix, but one you've got 1700kg of Omega moving, then you're going to rapidly gain on them. 'Playing' on the motorway stacks the odds up more in favour of the Omega.

A manual with quick reactions and good clutch work plus the low down torque of a big engine, for me has seen off more than just japanese flymos, also the likes of passats,audis. It's just a case of getting up over 30mph before a high rpm/low torque engine can reach its peak power.

Not on a public road of course

[jerry]

Dont know exactly why I couldnt get her delimited other than the fact that the "normal" route couldnt be taken because it was an autobox . The place I got all the work done at has a very good reputation and so , although disappointed, I really didnt query the point . At the end of the day I wasnt going to use it for track days so wouldnt really have a use for 130mph. I do remember that after I got it I gave it a blast one day on a quiet stretch of dual carriageway and she roared up to 112 with obviously more to go then the limiter kicked in and its really bizarre its like your building up your speed and suddenly someones changed down to 3rd for you!!

[Martin_1962]

The Honda vtecs go well for their capacity, but you have to scream the nuts off them. Obviously, no match for a well serviced v6

It depends where you're going to play. Small go faster hot hatches etc will leave an auto Omega for dead at the Traffic light Grande Prix, but one you've got 1700kg of Omega moving, then you're going to rapidly gain on them. 'Playing' on the motorway stacks the odds up more in favour of the Omega.

My MV6 Auto is 7.7s 0-60 on my dodgy timing without lauch starting it.  I have embarrassed a Type-R civic who thought he was quicker than he was

Haven't been able to get a good launched start timing for the tractor, as every time I do it, the revs go up, the speedo goes up, but the car doesn't move.  Then I phone up Black Circles, and give them my credit card number

I remember just over a year ago getting really silly 0-60 times, definately under 8 seconds (found it 7., so drive it well and you can embarras most things.

With a 3.0 I out accelerated a Renault Scenic up a bypass - that was fun, and I was taking my caravan for a service

[cem_devecioglu]

The Honda vtecs go well for their capacity, but you have to scream the nuts off them. Obviously, no match for a well serviced v6

It depends where you're going to play. Small go faster hot hatches etc will leave an auto Omega for dead at the Traffic light Grande Prix, but one you've got 1700kg of Omega moving, then you're going to rapidly gain on them. 'Playing' on the motorway stacks the odds up more in favour of the Omega.

agreed..on the long run miggies are faster..

[TheBoy]

The Honda vtecs go well for their capacity, but you have to scream the nuts off them. Obviously, no match for a well serviced v6

It depends where you're going to play. Small go faster hot hatches etc will leave an auto Omega for dead at the Traffic light Grande Prix, but one you've got 1700kg of Omega moving, then you're going to rapidly gain on them. 'Playing' on the motorway stacks the odds up more in favour of the Omega.

My MV6 Auto is 7.7s 0-60 on my dodgy timing without lauch starting it.  I have embarrassed a Type-R civic who thought he was quicker than he was

Haven't been able to get a good launched start timing for the tractor, as every time I do it, the revs go up, the speedo goes up, but the car doesn't move.  Then I phone up Black Circles, and give them my credit card number

I remember just over a year ago getting really silly 0-60 times, definately under 8 seconds (found it 7., so drive it well and you can embarras most things.

With a 3.0 I out accelerated a Renault Scenic up a bypass - that was fun, and I was taking my caravan for a service

lower geared 2.5/2.6 should match 3.0 to around 50ish, when the extra cc start to show