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[Lizzie_Zoom]

A couple lost their two children, and the father left crippled, in a car crash caused by a three times over the drink drive limit footballer, Luke Martin McCormick, doing 97 mph.  The driver got seven years in prison, but it is recognised he will be out in just over three years!

The journalist who threw shoes at President Bush has today received a three year jail sentence:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7938947.stm

I know these two cases involve two separate countries and their justice systems, but how do we value life in the UK and dispense justice accordingly??

[Vamps]

And was it not recently that a speeding motorcyclist was jailed for 2 and a half years because what might have hapened.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

And was it not recently that a speeding motorcyclist was jailed for 2 and a half years because what might have hapened.

True!!

So what is justice in 2008? :-? :-? :-? :-?

[Vamps]

And was it not recently that a speeding motorcyclist was jailed for 2 and a half years because what might have hapened.

True!!

So what is justice in 2008? :-? :-? :-? :-?

Up here they are about to sentance a bloke for killing 2 adults when his car went off the road as he was speeding around residential area at up to 100mph, drunk.
Let's see what he gets

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Yes..................It seems a crazy world at times Lizzie............Three years for throwing a pair of shoes (that missed)at the cretinous....bumbling........inept.....intellectually challenged fomer U.S President seems wholly inappropriate to me.
Just imagine the sentence ..................if one of the shoes had actually hit the imbecile.

[doog]

And was it not recently that a speeding motorcyclist was jailed for 2 and a half years because what might have hapened.

True!!

So what is justice in 2008? :-? :-? :-? :-?

Lizzie are you lagging behind the rest of us
we are in 2009 now  

Doug

[dbug]

Yes..................It seems a crazy world at times Lizzie............Three years for throwing a pair of shoes (that missed)at the cretinous....bumbling........inept.....intellectually challenged fomer U.S President seems wholly inappropriate to me.
Just imagine the sentence ..................if one of the shoes had actually hit the imbecile.

Fair do's - he managed to dodge them both  

[Lizzie_Zoom]

And was it not recently that a speeding motorcyclist was jailed for 2 and a half years because what might have hapened.

True!!

So what is justice in 2008? :-? :-? :-? :-?

Lizzie are you lagging behind the rest of us
we are in 2009 now  

Doug

Oh yes so it is!  These bloody years go by even quicker now!!

[Entwood]

Unfortunately Cyclops and his bunch of leftwing social do-gooders misfits have completely tied the hands of the judiciary by failing to build sufficient prisons and instigating this stupid bunch of even more leftwing social manipulators

http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/

and

http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/guidelines/council/quick.html

A read of that will frighten you ... and remember ... whatever that list of stupidity imposes.. the actual time served will be much less .. usually 50% ..

[Vamps]

And was it not recently that a speeding motorcyclist was jailed for 2 and a half years because what might have happened.

True!!

So what is justice in 2008? :-? :-? :-? :-?

Up here they are about to sentance a bloke for killing 2 adults when his car went off the road as he was speeding around residential area at up to 100mph, drunk.
Let's see what he gets

Jailed for 10 years, just released some details, sdriver, pissed, ran off after accident leaving a 2 year old in the middle of the road, having been thrown out of his pushchair, child survived, Dad and Dad's friend died.............. All were collecting conkers by the side of the road, they were not crossing the road............

[Lizzie_Zoom]

And was it not recently that a speeding motorcyclist was jailed for 2 and a half years because what might have happened.

True!!

So what is justice in 2008? :-? :-? :-? :-?

Up here they are about to sentance a bloke for killing 2 adults when his car went off the road as he was speeding around residential area at up to 100mph, drunk.
Let's see what he gets

Jailed for 10 years, just released some details, sdriver, pissed, ran off after accident leaving a 2 year old in the middle of the road, having been thrown out of his pushchair, child survived, Dad and Dad's friend died.............. All were collecting conkers by the side of the road, they were not crossing the road............

So 10 years, that will become 5 for killing two

No justice whatsoever for those bereaved!

In addition why was this sentence 10 years, when the footballer got just 7, both of which will be halved, when in both cases two people died??

It used to be that the sentence would be "hung by the neck until dead".   That was justice; a life for a life!  Controversial I know, but..........................!!!!!

[Entwood]

Unfortunately, due to the leftwing social twits ... whilst the MAXIMUM sentence allowable for Death by dangerous driving" is 14 years imprisonment, what is called the "starting point" is only 8 years and the courts are then FORCED to

"3. Consider relevant aggravating factors, both general and those
specific to the type of offence This may result in a sentence level being identified that is higher than the suggested starting point, sometimes substantially so.

4. Consider mitigating factors and personal mitigation
There may be general or offence specific mitigating factors and matters of personal mitigation which could result in a sentence that is lower than the suggested starting point (possibly substantially so), or a sentence of a different type."

So it is highly unlikely anyone would ever get the maximum sentence. The Judges hands are well and truly tied. If they breach these guidlines the accused will simply appeal and has a chance of getting off on a technicality.

[Turk]

Yes..................It seems a crazy world at times Lizzie............Three years for throwing a pair of shoes (that missed)at the cretinous....bumbling........inept.....intellectually challenged fomer U.S President seems wholly inappropriate to me.
Just imagine the sentence ..................if one of the shoes had actually hit the imbecile.

Maybe he's had the three years because he missed    

[razzo]

Since when was justice served in the UK in recent times. Police gather evidence pass it on to Criminal Protection Service (CPS) who are only interested in a prosecution which may bare no resemblence to the original charge anyway. Everyones human rights seems to overide everything these days even the pathetic excuse some muppet calls justice, why bother getting upset

[amigov6]

Yes..................It seems a crazy world at times Lizzie............Three years for throwing a pair of shoes (that missed)at the cretinous....bumbling........inept.....intellectually challenged fomer U.S President seems wholly inappropriate to me.
Just imagine the sentence ..................if one of the shoes had actually hit the imbecile.

Fair do's - he managed to dodge them both  

He dodged them as quick as any politician dodges a straight answer, but no they did'nt connect so an assault charge is questionable. Attempted assault?
    I think round those parts to throw a shoe at some one is the ultimate disrespective insult & highly frowned upon hence the harsh sentance. Appeal pending though. :-/