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[tunnie]

Its known as GPL over the water... so just wanted to ask if anyone has any experiance with stations in Europe?

I hear its more popular than here, and at less than 40p a litre damn cheap stuff.

Considering converting the Senny to LPG... buy something like this:

Rangie 3.5 V8, has THREE !!! LPG tanks, rip all the stuff off. Fit it to the Senny and sell the Range again for £200??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1987-RANGE-ROVER-VOGUE-3-5-V8-EFI-LPG-conversion_W0QQitemZ130071391016QQihZ003QQcategoryZ29748QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Martin_1962]

Tanks wouldn't fit!

What system did Graham use in his Senator?

I would recommend SGI but is it worth it for yours? - look for any SGI 6 cylinder cheap on Ebay

[Omegatoy]

Thats no good to you mate as it has 2 torpedo tanks mounted under neath, its also an early system which is fed in throuh the air intake, which leads to big bangs in the intake system and renders the afm donald ducked!!!
the emulator would also be different as you need a six cylinder one!!!

[Omegatoy]

http://www.autogasworldwide.co.uk/consumer/index.htm

http://www.tinleytech.co.uk/

hacve a look at these 2 mate

[Martin_1962]

If you want a brand new install I can get a good price from Autogas Worldwide. I have the software and the lead for their current SGI system.

Region of 8 to 9 hundred depending on tank ect.

I reckon OmegaToy could do most of the work easily with backup from me.

Now I think the Senator has the same spare wheel setup as the Omega so you are looking at a cylinder tank of about 70l. Any bigger and your boot will be overly comprimised.

Finding an SGI S/H system may be a battle but no matter what you will still need lots of pipe ect

[tunnie]

Cheers guys, SGI and 6 pots it is then. I did see a BMW 730 LPG going cheap someware...

Graham - How long would a conversation take? - Its not something i'd take to a Garage i was hoping to ask a big favour for fitting it  

[Martin_1962]

I did mine a few hours at a time over about 8 weekends, biggest job was fitting the plenum nozzles and evaporator pipe.

However the car was not off the road in between, take it off the road and look at around 25-40 hours if planned properly, and prepared carefully.

Some systems need a Lamda probe in the exhaust but some just use the car ECU and trim the fuel levels.

I am sorry if I dropped OmegaToy in it but he has done one before and I think he has plenty of tools. That said I may be a bit too far away to easily pop down regularly.

How long are you planning to keep the Senator is it a short term pleasure or will it be a long term love affair?

If long term it may be worth going to new kit

[Omegatoy]

flat out 2days of very hard work,but i wouldnt recommend it cos to much can be rushed and if you make a mistake your knaclered,
 but the best way of doing it is to mount your tank etc one weekend then you can still use the car next time you have spare time install lpg lines, then the following time you have off do the engine install and your still able to use the car, final part is the wireing, then  you put a few litres of gas in the tank and check and check again for leaks, then the fingers crossed and park i a field somewhere and switch it over to ;lpg and see if it runs or goes bang!!!

by doing it in stages mate you can save yourself a whole lot of grief and you know exactly how its done, Have a man who will inspect the install and supply a certificate no problem!!
Omegatoy

[tunnie]

not sure... its G's fault for putting LPG in my mind!  

Europe fuel bill would be around £800 i estimate. Thats 6,000 miles, 400 miles per tank = 15 tanks of fuel @ £50 = £750

Sooo if i buy second hand lpg parts for say £200 or buy a car with the bits on... it should work out cheaper buy quite a bit.

Thanks of course if i can find enough LPG stations...

[tunnie]

parents also pointed out the time issue, its only 8 weeks till my project is in, and thats not very long for the work left to do!

[TheBoy]

parents also pointed out the time issue, its only 8 weeks till my project is in, and thats not very long for the work left to do!

and playing on forums and old rusty cars are not going to get yur assignments done....

[tunnie]

parents also pointed out the time issue, its only 8 weeks till my project is in, and thats not very long for the work left to do!

and playing on forums and old rusty cars are not going to get yur assignments done....

Some students get drunk, i get dirty with cars!  

On the up side, got the results from my interim presenation for my main project, got an A  

I was also in the top 5% of the class of around 80 students  

[TheBoy]

parents also pointed out the time issue, its only 8 weeks till my project is in, and thats not very long for the work left to do!

and playing on forums and old rusty cars are not going to get yur assignments done....

Some students get drunk, i get dirty with cars!  

On the up side, got the results from my interim presenation for my main project, got an A  

I was also in the top 5% of the class of around 80 students  

Swat  

[Paul M]

Now I think the Senator has the same spare wheel setup as the Omega so you are looking at a cylinder tank of about 70l. Any bigger and your boot will be overly comprimised.

Mine is a 100L tank (80L gas capacity) and there's still plenty of boot space. Make sure the tank is as wide as possible as any space left down the sides is pretty useless anyway.

Personally I wouldn't want a smaller tank, LPG still isn't that common so the less often you have to refill the less times you find yourself making a detour to find a suitable filling station. I can go about 450 miles on a sedate motorway trip, typically more like 380-400 miles with a normal mix of driving. If I had a 70L tank, all else being equal I'd get between 266 and 315 miles to a tank (instead of 380-450). If you're talking about a senator with a slushbox you can probably lower that some more as it will be less economical.

It depends how much you value your boot space of course, but these cars have loads of space inside too so unless you're travelling 4 or 5 up it's seldom a problem.

[tunnie]

Now I think the Senator has the same spare wheel setup as the Omega so you are looking at a cylinder tank of about 70l. Any bigger and your boot will be overly comprimised.

Mine is a 100L tank (80L gas capacity) and there's still plenty of boot space. Make sure the tank is as wide as possible as any space left down the sides is pretty useless anyway.

Personally I wouldn't want a smaller tank, LPG still isn't that common so the less often you have to refill the less times you find yourself making a detour to find a suitable filling station. I can go about 450 miles on a sedate motorway trip, typically more like 380-400 miles with a normal mix of driving. If I had a 70L tank, all else being equal I'd get between 266 and 315 miles to a tank (instead of 380-450). If you're talking about a senator with a slushbox you can probably lower that some more as it will be less economical.

It depends how much you value your boot space of course, but these cars have loads of space inside too so unless you're travelling 4 or 5 up it's seldom a problem.

Boot space on the Senator is not an issue, it is HUGE!! Its far bigger than the Omega. I rekon i could get a 120 litre tank sideways.. Paul, how much space is either side of your 100L tank? Because the Senator is "less rounded" i get more room.

In serious reflection, I am thinking I won't have time to fit it properly   - I may do it if a 6pot LPG car appears stupidly cheap though