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Re: In praise of wanli.
« Reply #30 on: 14 March 2009, 22:26:51 »

My 2.5 had good Michelins all round £80 a corner.
The Beastie has Goodyear Eagle F1's, very grippy in the dry, hav'nt pushed things too hard in wet conditions (other than being a little playful)! but had to stop quick a on wet road once & the car pulled up quick & straight, no dramas.
  I like the F1's but @ £180 a corner my wheels & tyres are worth more than the car so not sure what i'll replace them with when the time comes. :-/
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Re: In praise of wanli.
« Reply #31 on: 15 March 2009, 19:31:13 »

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ive got ZV-3's on the back of my car to replace my Nankangs and i will be getting more zv-3's for the front they seem a very good tyre and havent let me down yet nice and grippy in the wet and dry :y

Kumho are the worst cheap tyre
Strangely, I've found Avon ZV3s to be the worse tyre I've ever had on Omega  :-/
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Re: In praise of wanli.
« Reply #32 on: 15 March 2009, 19:35:28 »

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ive got ZV-3's on the back of my car to replace my Nankangs and i will be getting more zv-3's for the front they seem a very good tyre and havent let me down yet nice and grippy in the wet and dry :y

Kumho are the worst cheap tyre
Strangely, I've found Avon ZV3s to be the worse tyre I've ever had on Omega  :-/

Got to agree with that, got some on the back of this one, can't wait to get some decent Sport 9090's on it.

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« Reply #33 on: 15 March 2009, 19:50:16 »

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ive got ZV-3's on the back of my car to replace my Nankangs and i will be getting more zv-3's for the front they seem a very good tyre and havent let me down yet nice and grippy in the wet and dry :y

Kumho are the worst cheap tyre
Strangely, I've found Avon ZV3s to be the worse tyre I've ever had on Omega  :-/

Got to agree with that, got some on the back of this one, can't wait to get some decent Sport 9090's on it.



As I have mentioned I have had Avon's on and off many times over the years and always found them excellent :y :y.

The current ZZ3's I have on are no exception, with very good road holding in all conditions 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-).
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« Reply #34 on: 15 March 2009, 19:50:40 »

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My 2.5 had good Michelins all round £80 a corner.
The Beastie has Goodyear Eagle F1's, very grippy in the dry, hav'nt pushed things too hard in wet conditions (other than being a little playful)! but had to stop quick a on wet road once & the car pulled up quick & straight, no dramas.
  I like the F1's but @ £180 a corner my wheels & tyres are worth more than the car so not sure what i'll replace them with when the time comes. :-/
I paid just under £100 a corner for them new.

Now got Goodyear Excellence on the toyshop and quite happy with them.  Was having some energetic fun today on the twisty coastal roads round here and they behaved impeccably.  Likewise, happy with their wet performance as well.

Despite calls and claims to the contrary, I have not yet found a decent 'budget' tyre that ticks all my boxes as to performance.

As to Wanli tyres, I cannot comment as I have never used them personally.  What I can say is, after being at the scene of many a serious and fatal car crash, in varying weather conditions, and carrying out vehicle and brake tests, the more expensive/premium make the tyre then the greater liklyhood of the vehicle either being under control or brought to a halt earlier.

Personally, tyres is one thing I do not skimp on.  I enjoy my cars ( and my life and that of others) too much.  Tyre companies test expensively to get the best product available out there.  For a reason...  

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Re: In praise of wanli.
« Reply #35 on: 15 March 2009, 19:57:41 »

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 after being at the scene of many a serious and fatal car crash, in varying weather conditions, and carrying out vehicle and brake tests, the more expensive/premium make the tyre then the greater liklyhood of the vehicle either being under control or brought to a halt earlier.
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Is were tyre makes something that you'd have noted when making notes on the remnants of cars involved in major accidents - aswell as the legality of tread etc ?
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« Reply #36 on: 15 March 2009, 20:00:57 »

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 after being at the scene of many a serious and fatal car crash, in varying weather conditions, and carrying out vehicle and brake tests, the more expensive/premium make the tyre then the greater liklyhood of the vehicle either being under control or brought to a halt earlier.
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Is were tyre makes something that you'd have noted when making notes on the remnants of cars involved in major accidents - aswell as the legality of tread etc ?

Most definately, yes.

I am a qualfied C&G accident investigator and considered an expert witness within Court processes.  Whether bald/deficient tyres had a bearing on an accident was often critical to an investigation.

Whether particular tyres are good/bad/indifferent, thats simply a personal observation on what I would or would not have on my own car.
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« Reply #37 on: 15 March 2009, 20:04:51 »

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 after being at the scene of many a serious and fatal car crash, in varying weather conditions, and carrying out vehicle and brake tests, the more expensive/premium make the tyre then the greater liklyhood of the vehicle either being under control or brought to a halt earlier.
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Is were tyre makes something that you'd have noted when making notes on the remnants of cars involved in major accidents - aswell as the legality of tread etc ?

Most definately, yes.

I am a qualfied C&G accident investigator and considered an expert witness within Court processes.  Whether bald/deficient tyres had a bearing on an accident was often critical to an investigation.

Whether particular tyres are good/bad/indifferent, thats simply a personal observation on what I would or would not have on my own car.

....  and tyre pressures versus manufacturers recommended were also noted and reported.  Pressure imbalances can and often are crucial to handling problems and impacts.
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« Reply #38 on: 15 March 2009, 20:22:31 »

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 after being at the scene of many a serious and fatal car crash, in varying weather conditions, and carrying out vehicle and brake tests, the more expensive/premium make the tyre then the greater liklyhood of the vehicle either being under control or brought to a halt earlier.
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Is were tyre makes something that you'd have noted when making notes on the remnants of cars involved in major accidents - aswell as the legality of tread etc ?

Most definately, yes.

I am a qualfied C&G accident investigator and considered an expert witness within Court processes.  Whether bald/deficient tyres had a bearing on an accident was often critical to an investigation.

Whether particular tyres are good/bad/indifferent, thats simply a personal observation on what I would or would not have on my own car.

....  and tyre pressures versus manufacturers recommended were also noted and reported.  Pressure imbalances can and often are crucial to handling problems and impacts.

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I'll have to put some over time in then & get shut of these Events & 2 A N Others off then! :y :y
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« Reply #39 on: 16 March 2009, 08:21:31 »

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 after being at the scene of many a serious and fatal car crash, in varying weather conditions, and carrying out vehicle and brake tests, the more expensive/premium make the tyre then the greater liklyhood of the vehicle either being under control or brought to a halt earlier.
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Is were tyre makes something that you'd have noted when making notes on the remnants of cars involved in major accidents - aswell as the legality of tread etc ?

Most definately, yes.

I am a qualfied C&G accident investigator and considered an expert witness within Court processes.  Whether bald/deficient tyres had a bearing on an accident was often critical to an investigation.

Whether particular tyres are good/bad/indifferent, thats simply a personal observation on what I would or would not have on my own car.

....  and tyre pressures versus manufacturers recommended were also noted and reported.  Pressure imbalances can and often are crucial to handling problems and impacts.

Ta!
I'll have to put some over time in then & get shut of these Events & 2 A N Others off then! :y :y

Any guide on what is legally considered to be "within range" of the correct tire pressure. For instance my Elite i beleive is 32 in the hand book, however at that pressure i have since discovered the car tramlines quite badly. I have now raised the psi to 36 to counter this and the car is a bit less grippy in the rain, however dry grip is still good.

In short, is the pressure too high from a legal view point, and what would be considred too low, to the best of your knowledge?

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Re: In praise of wanli.
« Reply #40 on: 16 March 2009, 08:24:33 »

run your tyre pressure between 32 and 34 all round

running them at 36 will cause your tyres to wear in the centre
i run mine at 34 and have no problems at all :y
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« Reply #41 on: 16 March 2009, 08:33:09 »

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run your tyre pressure between 32 and 34 all round

running them at 36 will cause your tyres to wear in the centre
i run mine at 34 and have no problems at all :y

Yes i am aware of this, 235 45 17s do tend to wear in the middle anywyay i am told, and the previous set did just that and seemed to be set at 32 going by the average of all four when i got the car.

I am not too worried if they wear prematurely, as a want to get rid of them.

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Re: In praise of wanli.
« Reply #42 on: 16 March 2009, 08:41:07 »

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run your tyre pressure between 32 and 34 all round

running them at 36 will cause your tyres to wear in the centre
i run mine at 34 and have no problems at all :y

Yes i am aware of this, 235 45 17s do tend to wear in the middle anywyay i am told, and the previous set did just that and seemed to be set at 32 going by the average of all four when i got the car.

I am not too worried if they wear prematurely, as a want to get rid of them.


I'm sure the manual says you can run them higher than 34 when you have 2 passengers / boot is loaded.....

Have to say mine seems better at 34 compared to 32.


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Re: In praise of wanli.
« Reply #43 on: 16 March 2009, 08:47:13 »

Here is a question for the knowlegable then, I have two of the Wanli's on the front with approx 7-8mm tread on and two firestone on the rear with around 4mm of tread on. Would I be best with the better make but lower tread on the back where the drive is or the front where most breaking work is done?
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« Reply #44 on: 16 March 2009, 09:49:47 »

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Here is a question for the knowlegable then, I have two of the Wanli's on the front with approx 7-8mm tread on and two firestone on the rear with around 4mm of tread on. Would I be best with the better make but lower tread on the back where the drive is or the front where most breaking work is done?
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for the brake distance higher tread tires must be used in front.. But dont forget you must drop your speed at curves for not to loose the tail as front and rears can stand different g forces..
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