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Al Gore
« on: 05 April 2009, 14:32:07 »

Did anybody see the Al Gore documentary last night........"An Inconvenient truth".......

Do we need to worry............or is it all hype and green agenda propaganda?.

Interesting and thought provoking stuff. :y :y :y :y
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« Reply #1 on: 05 April 2009, 15:22:25 »

I watched it while missus in the other room was bored with the tone of his voice lol. I don't buy in to all what he said...

And don't you worry green taxes are in place soon and our beloved government will take care of it!!!
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« Reply #2 on: 05 April 2009, 20:31:01 »

Nickbat thinks Al Gore is a great guy and is always telling people that they should listen to him. :y ;D
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« Reply #3 on: 05 April 2009, 20:57:52 »

Failed politician,got himself a lucrative new career,good luck to him.
There have always been snake oil salesmen and always will be. ;)
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« Reply #4 on: 05 April 2009, 21:17:39 »

There is also a documentary called "The Convenient Truth" it gives you the other side of the story.
Yes climate change is happening, did humans cause it ? no.
Governments have just latched on to the idea as, brilliant way to raise taxes, nothing more.

Mike
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Re: Al Gore
« Reply #5 on: 05 April 2009, 21:53:07 »

it was proven that there were 8 "inaccurate" details in that film [or lies in english ;)], & dont forget folks this is the same con artist that is involved in a company selling carbon credits, perhaps thats an inconvenient truth he didnt want known >:(
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Re: Al Gore
« Reply #6 on: 05 April 2009, 21:53:54 »

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There is also a documentary called "The Convenient Truth" it gives you the other side of the story.
Yes climate change is happening, did humans cause it ? no.
Governments have just latched on to the idea as, brilliant way to raise taxes, nothing more.

Mike

Agreed (haven't seen this documentary though) :y :y :y
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« Reply #7 on: 05 April 2009, 22:16:13 »

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Nickbat thinks Al Gore is a great guy and is always telling people that they should listen to him. :y ;D

Grrrr!  ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

He's a con artist of the worst kind. I could post hundreds of links debunking the crap in his film, but I'll just suggest reading The Skeptics Handbook from Joanne Nova's site. That'll tell you all you need to know.  :y

http://joannenova.com.au/
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Re: Al Gore
« Reply #8 on: 05 April 2009, 22:19:16 »

or perhaps going to www.junkscience.com & have a read on there :y
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« Reply #9 on: 05 April 2009, 22:37:01 »

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or perhaps going to www.junkscience.com & have a read on there :y

Yep, good link, Alf, been there often!  :y

Just a few salient points on Al Gore's claims:

We'll be swamped by seas rising by 18-20 feet.
Er, no, I don't think so, Al. (Incidentally, if you believe it, why did you buy that beach-front property a couple of years back?)
The University of Colorado has updated the sea-level data from the JASON satellite to the end of 2008. Though James Hansen of NASA says sea level will rise 246 feet, sea level has not risen since the beginning of 2006. Sea level rose just 8 inches in the 20th century and has been rising at just 1 ft/century since 1993.

The planet has a fever. No, Al, you got it wrong again.
Since Al Gore’s climate movie An Inconvenient Truth was launched in January 2005, global cooling has occurred at the equivalent of 10F (5.5C) per century. If this rapid cooling were to continue, the Earth would be in an Ice Age by 2100.

The poles are melting.! They'll be ice free within a decade or two. No, Al, they won't.  
Sea ice extent in the Arctic recovered to the 30-year average during the early winter of 2008. In the Antarctic, sea ice extent reached a record high late in 2007, and has remained plentiful since. Global sea ice extent shows no trend for 30 years.

Hurricanes are getting stronger and more frequent. No, Al, they aren't.
The Accumulated Cyclone Energy Index is a 24-month running sum of monthly energy levels in all hurricanes, typhoons and tropical cyclones. The Accumulated Cyclone Energy Index hit a 30-year low in October 2008.

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monthly_report/march_co2_report.html
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Re: Al Gore
« Reply #10 on: 05 April 2009, 22:42:45 »

isnt it amazing what scientists can conjure up when their government backing is in jeopardy isnt it >:( >:(
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« Reply #11 on: 05 April 2009, 22:48:57 »

The thing is it is now a global business,a lot of money is being made out of it,it appeals to the 60,s hippy generation and well meaning but gullible youth.
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« Reply #12 on: 06 April 2009, 00:12:52 »

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The thing is it is now a global business,a lot of money is being made out of it,it appeals to the 60,s hippy generation and well meaning but gullible youth.

Most people seem to carry on without even noticing this:

Last October the House of Commons passed, by 463 votes to three, the most expensive piece of legislation ever put through Parliament. The only MP to question the cost of the Climate Change Act, requiring Britain to cut its CO2 emissions by 80 per cent within 40 years, was Peter Lilley. It was also Mr Lilley who, just before the MPs voted to stop runaway global warming, drew the House’s attention to the fact that, outside, London was experiencing its first October snow for 74 years.

What made the MPs’ lack of interest in the cost of this Act even more curious was that the Government’s own “impact assessment” showed that, whereas its benefits were estimated at £110 billion, its costs were £205 billion. The MPs thus happily voted for something that would be twice as costly as any benefit.

But these figures were based on the Government’s original plan to cut CO2 emissions by only 60 per cent. A last-minute amendment had this to 80 per cent (a target which can only be achieved by closing down most of Britain’s economy), so our “climate change minister”, Ed Miliband, was obliged to produce new figures. These he has now belatedly slipped out via the Department of Energy and Climate Change website – no thought of reporting them to Parliament – and truly mind-boggling they are. The cost of the Act has nearly doubled, to £404 billion, or £18.3 billion for every year between now and 2050. However, the supposed benefits are given, astonishingly, as £1,024 billion, an increase of 1,000 per cent.

How on earth were such unbelievable figures calculated? Peter Lilley has written a trenchant letter to Mr Miliband, asking this and a series of other highly pertinent questions. But pending any reply, last week I posed this question to DECC myself. I was assured that the new figures had been worked out by “a method used by the independent Committee on Climate Change, and peer-reviewed by Simon Deitz, an expert in carbon pricing from the London School of Economics”. Dr Deitz’s website shows that last year he carried out “research for the UK Committee on Climate Change”.

So this independent expert was asked to peer review the method used by an “independent” committee (which he had already been working for) to produce figures that seem rather to have been plucked from the thin air of which only 0.04 per cent – one 2,500th – consists of the self-same carbon dioxide which we are now expected to believe we will benefit by £1 trillion from not emitting. Truly we are governed these days by stark, raving lunacy – and no one is meant to notice.

by Christopher Booker

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5105923/Yet-more-mind-boggling-figures-on-global-warming.html

Is it just me that picks up on these things? Why isn't the country up in arms about this?  :(
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« Reply #13 on: 06 April 2009, 06:24:35 »

they cant see the wood for (hugging)the trees. :)
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« Reply #14 on: 06 April 2009, 11:15:29 »

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How on earth were such unbelievable figures calculated? Peter Lilley has written a trenchant letter to Mr Miliband, asking this and a series of other highly pertinent questions. But pending any reply, last week I posed this question to DECC myself. I was assured that the new figures had been worked out by “a method used by the independent Committee on Climate Change, and peer-reviewed by Simon Deitz, an expert in carbon pricing from the London School of Economics”. Dr Deitz’s website shows that last year he carried out “research for the UK Committee on Climate Change”.
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Oh my... what the hell is that then? Wonder what he was doing before he became Carbon rather Pricing Expert!!! A failed economist??
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