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[iainb]

We are all dunn for I fear................Ally pots and pans and copper grease.
What next ............Butter, curry ?

[HolyCount]

We are all dunn for I fear................Ally pots and pans and copper grease.
What next ............Butter, curry ?

Good Grief Rusty -- don't mention butter .... and some curries I have sampled have been lethal too !!!!!

[iainb]

Captain Mainwaring where are you................

[HolyCount]

Doomed ... DOOOOOMED I tell ye

[iainb]

Stupid boy................

[Ken T]

I bet the problem is only with the label on the cans.
  But having said that if you have get-rid I could provide a good home for some more.

Not a problem, i will keep you posted, i have about 75kg in total

I could help too

Likewise

ken

[Ken T]

Oil derivatives tend to be carcinogenic, add copper, which is actually highly toxic and it's not nice stuff. Molybdenum grease would be better ----- although I am sure someone will know better  

AFAIK it's not banned -- just use with gloves

So ale thats brewed in copper kettles is dangerous ?

You never know --- symptoms of copper poisoning include nausea, dizziness and vomitting ...... and you thought it was the ale doing that !!!!!!!!

Makes you think though -- after all how long was it before they realised lead warter pipes were killing people and boiling the veggies in aluminium pans might contribute to alzheimers.

 :-? :-? :-?

This is like when they banned lead in solder. There is no evidence of the lead leatching out of solder in land fill sites, so negligible risk, unless you like licking circuit boards. And the alternative commonly used is composed of Tin-Silver-Copper. You want to look up how they mine silver, and the chemicals involved in its refinement ?. Er no thanks, bring back lead, much less hazardous. Plus the extra temperature required to solder with it, stresses components to failing point. Thats why Amstrad got out of making Sky boxes, cause the cheap (crap) compoents he used wouldn't survive the elevated soldering temperatures.

ken

[Vamps]

Sure I have a cople of heavy rolls of solder in the garage In fact I have a lot of old stuff in the garage

[Ken T]

Hang onto it, its great stuff, it works well, Marshall Amps use it and keep working for decades. HP laptops use the new stuff and die after 13 months

ken

[Ian_D]

Good job I bought a tin of copper grease 6 months ago then!  

Must admit, ive never used gloves with the grease, and I just use my finger to spread it about. Didnt know it was that bad  :-?

[Ian_D]

Hang onto it, its great stuff, it works well, Marshall Amps use it and keep working for decades. HP laptops use the new stuff and die after 13 months

ken

Are you referring to the Nvidia Chip that break free from the board? Laptops and BGA's dont last 5 mins now  

[Vamps]

Good job I bought a tin of copper grease 6 months ago then!  

Must admit, ive never used gloves with the grease, and I just use my finger to spread it about. Didnt know it was that bad  :-?

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Me too, but can anyone tell me what is not bad for our health, in one way or another

[Ian_D]

Good job I bought a tin of copper grease 6 months ago then!  

Must admit, ive never used gloves with the grease, and I just use my finger to spread it about. Didnt know it was that bad  :-?

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Me too, but can anyone tell me what is not bad for our health, in one way or another

Thats so true... We wont be able to leave our own house soon because of health and safety!

[Vamps]

Good job I bought a tin of copper grease 6 months ago then!  

Must admit, ive never used gloves with the grease, and I just use my finger to spread it about. Didnt know it was that bad  :-?

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Me too, but can anyone tell me what is not bad for our health, in one way or another

Thats so true... We wont be able to leave our own house soon because of health and safety!

And what would a H&S person make of our homes? all those wires and electrical things, and those toys on the floor and the cat that gets under you feet, and dont slip in the bath and watch the toilet seat in case it falls down mid flow, and the knife in the sink....where will it all end............

[Ken T]

Hang onto it, its great stuff, it works well, Marshall Amps use it and keep working for decades. HP laptops use the new stuff and die after 13 months

ken

Are you referring to the Nvidia Chip that break free from the board? Laptops and BGA's dont last 5 mins now  

yes, but its not actually breaking free. Nvidia admitted this, they use a crap chip substrate that breaks down after so many heat cycles, usually after 13 months. I have had experience of bad BGA soldered joints, eg the HP NX 7010 using an ATI graphics chip tends to get bad joints. I have access to an Ersa IR500D, so repaired several by reflowing the joints, eg apply flux and heat up to reflow temp. I tried this with a DV 6000 board, it started working ok but the wireless was still duff, so I think the heat caused a temporary repair which caused the chip to start working again. I suspect it will die soon; my son sent his DV9000 off to HP for a board replacement, it died after 4 months.  
 

Ken