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[Martin_1962]

Ham is boiled isn't it?

So ham is basically boiled unsmoked bacon, which is basically salt cured pork?

Sticking with the uncured stuff!

[zirk]

Ham is boiled isn't it?

So ham is basically boiled unsmoked bacon, which is basically salt cured pork?

Sticking with the uncured stuff!

Try soaking the bacon in cold water over night before you cook it, gets rid of the salt.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread.  

Well I have the bread but no bacon!!

How about we meet up at the Dartford Crossing with pan and camping stove at the ready Zirk?!

Cool, nice one, but Im not paying the Crossing.  

Wot!!  

You don't think my lovely bacon butties are worth the cost of the toll!!

You don't know what you are going to miss for the sake of £1.50!

£1.50 , its gone up then.  

Yes, that's what I thought I heard on the news two months back, although I have not used the crossing since then!

£1 was bad enough in my opinion; we payed for those crossings how many times over??  And we pay road tax, petrol duty, VAT,...... don't get me started though, I'm about to rant!!!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Just double checked, and it is £1-50 from 15th November last year!

EDIT:  £1 FREE though for out of hours!!  

[zirk]

Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread.  

Well I have the bread but no bacon!!

How about we meet up at the Dartford Crossing with pan and camping stove at the ready Zirk?!

Cool, nice one, but Im not paying the Crossing.  

Wot!!  

You don't think my lovely bacon butties are worth the cost of the toll!!

You don't know what you are going to miss for the sake of £1.50!

£1.50 , its gone up then.  

Yes, that's what I thought I heard on the news two months back, although I have not used the crossing since then!

£1 was bad enough in my opinion; we payed for those crossings how many times over??  And we pay road tax, petrol duty, VAT,...... don't get me started though, I'm about to rant!!!

And its not even a Toll charge, its a Congestion Charge. Stupid pillicks cant even work out that they need to put the Charge Booth windows on both sides to accomadate all those left hand driving lorrys, then there wouldn't be a congestion.

[platty]

The bridge was paid for by 2003, so since then the Gov have pocketed at least £300 million given that over 50 million cars use it a year. Absolutely disgusting.  

I like bacon though.

[zirk]

I tend to use the Woolwich Ferry quiet a lot now as Dartfords nearly allways choc a bloc. Its Free and seems to run ok. Plus there's one of those Oriental Wholesale Warehouse's on the north side that have a Freshly cooked Noodles Bar inside for about £4.

Not sure if the sell Bacon though....Bacon, Spicy Beef Noodles, Hmm.. really really hungry now.  

[Marks DTM Calib]

Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.

Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).

Its salted to preserve it.

[Debs.]

Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.

Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).

Its salted to preserve it.

....and hyper saturated salt-solution is injected into the bacon (and ham) to both bulk it up and add 'cheap' weight; the so called "added producer value"

My local butcher doesn`t use any salt in his delicious, home cured, cold-smoked bacon and hams and amazingly they cost only the same as supermarket 'medium' ranges of pork/bacon/ham.

Please support your skilled local butcher/poulterer; if we don`t they`ll soon be be gone and the retail 'giants' will be free to run a provisioning kleptocracy.

[Jimbob]

Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.

Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).

Its salted to preserve it.

....and hyper saturated salt-solution is injected into the bacon (and ham) to both bulk it up and add 'cheap' weight; the so called "added producer value"

My local butcher doesn`t use any salt in his delicious, home cured, cold-smoked bacon and hams and amazingly they cost only the same as supermarket 'medium' ranges of pork/bacon/ham.

Please support your skilled local butcher/poulterer; if we don`t they`ll soon be be gone and the retail 'giants' will be free to run a provisioning kleptocracy.

do you use Rhug farm shop?

[Debs.]

Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.

Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).

Its salted to preserve it.

....and hyper saturated salt-solution is injected into the bacon (and ham) to both bulk it up and add 'cheap' weight; the so called "added producer value"

My local butcher doesn`t use any salt in his delicious, home cured, cold-smoked bacon and hams and amazingly they cost only the same as supermarket 'medium' ranges of pork/bacon/ham.

Please support your skilled local butcher/poulterer; if we don`t they`ll soon be be gone and the retail 'giants' will be free to run a provisioning kleptocracy.

do you use Rhug farm shop?

I find the Rhug Estate meat to be superb, but a little at the luxury end of the price bracket for 'Deb`s towers'.

I meat-shop mostly at T.Roberts (situated at the Corwen end of the High St. in Bala)

 http://tjroberts.wisshost.net/home-1.aspx

A superb quality butcher and poulterer: Roberts have "Welsh-Black" beef, local lamb, corn-fed free range large-chickens, a wonderful range of 'game': pheasant/poussin/rabbit/wild boar/partridge as well as his home produced cheeses, bacon and sausages (and he sells fresh garden-veggies too!)

Roberts deliver even small quantities locally around-here for free, but there is easy parking right outside the shop, Jimbob....well worth a visit.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.

Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).

Its salted to preserve it.

....and hyper saturated salt-solution is injected into the bacon (and ham) to both bulk it up and add 'cheap' weight; the so called "added producer value"

My local butcher doesn`t use any salt in his delicious, home cured, cold-smoked bacon and hams and amazingly they cost only the same as supermarket 'medium' ranges of pork/bacon/ham.

Please support your skilled local butcher/poulterer; if we don`t they`ll soon be be gone and the retail 'giants' will be free to run a provisioning kleptocracy.

do you use Rhug farm shop?

I find the Rhug Estate meat to be superb, but a little at the luxury end of the price bracket for 'Deb`s towers'.

I meat-shop mostly at T.Roberts (situated at the Corwen end of the High St. in Bala)

 http://tjroberts.wisshost.net/home-1.aspx

A superb quality butcher and poulterer: Roberts have "Welsh-Black" beef, local lamb, corn-fed free range large-chickens, a wonderful range of 'game': pheasant/poussin/rabbit/wild boar/partridge as well as his home produced cheeses, bacon and sausages (and he sells fresh garden-veggies too!)

Roberts deliver even small quantities locally around-here for free, but there is easy parking right outside the shop, Jimbob....well worth a visit.

I am surprised you don't have your own animals slaughtered Debs, and sell the really fresh meat and other things in your own farm shop.

Up early this year I knew a farmer who did this, selling other local farmers produce as well, in his own on site shop.  Really excellent quality!! 8-) 8-) 8-)

He decided to sell up though for any easier life.

[Jimbob]

mmmm welsh black

/drool


we like a farm shop at Trueddyn

http://www.swansfarmshop.co.uk/

[OmegaGav]

Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.

Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).

Its salted to preserve it.

Isn't uncooked ham called gammon !

[Goonybird]

Reading this is making me hungry.

mmmmmmmmm ......... Bacon Butties.........

Mind you, has anyone seen Halal Pork??