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[Marks DTM Calib]

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According to Google and National Rail, its no contest.

National rail lists journey time of 4 hours 31 mins on train, Google Maps says 7 hours 9 mins. (google does always over estimate a bit, but 3 hours!  )

If he does beat it, he will have to seriously put his foot down

Yes Tunnie but, this is a steam train and will have to stop for water every 100miles! Plus possibly a top up of the lubrication setup (coal should just be ok)

[tunnie]

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Vs This:

According to Google and National Rail, its no contest.

National rail lists journey time of 4 hours 31 mins on train, Google Maps says 7 hours 9 mins. (google does always over estimate a bit, but 3 hours!  )

If he does beat it, he will have to seriously put his foot down

Yes Tunnie but, this is a steam train and will have to stop for water every 100miles! Plus possibly a top up of the lubrication setup (coal should just be ok)

I guess those water traps between the rails are no longer in use  

[TheBoy]

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Vs This:

According to Google and National Rail, its no contest.

National rail lists journey time of 4 hours 31 mins on train, Google Maps says 7 hours 9 mins. (google does always over estimate a bit, but 3 hours!  )

If he does beat it, he will have to seriously put his foot down

Yes Tunnie but, this is a steam train and will have to stop for water every 100miles! Plus possibly a top up of the lubrication setup (coal should just be ok)

The concept of stopping for refuelling (water in this case) is alien to him I think .

[Marks DTM Calib]

This



Vs This:

According to Google and National Rail, its no contest.

National rail lists journey time of 4 hours 31 mins on train, Google Maps says 7 hours 9 mins. (google does always over estimate a bit, but 3 hours!  )

If he does beat it, he will have to seriously put his foot down

Yes Tunnie but, this is a steam train and will have to stop for water every 100miles! Plus possibly a top up of the lubrication setup (coal should just be ok)

I guess those water traps between the rails are no longer in use  

Yep, removed (not that long ago though)

Tornado does not have a water scoop fitted anyway.

[tunnie]

I could beat the Chiltern slug on a push bike

Yesterday saw almost record time, 8PM express, did the run in 46 mins.

Is that good  :-?

We've thrown enough money at public tranport, it still doesn't work, way too expensive, and around these parts, slow.

I can't see me doing that run any quicker, be it in car, bus, train, bike.

The Chiltern line is slow by comparison, but thats down to the line, not the company. But its still for me, the best way to get to London.

In 2 years of commuting there has only ever been one big delay, and that was due to a fire at the London signal control, trains are always on time, if late, never by more than a few mins.

With that dumping of snow earlier this year, they ran a full service, with NO delays!

Remember with public transport, you have to take into account getting from home to the place you start public transport, then from the end of that to your final destination.

Anyone here wanting to go into the city, its the wrong option - car is faster, more convenient, and cheaper (even with Livingstone's toilet paper tax)

If we had offices in Marlybone or very close to the A40, i would seriously consider switching to bike!

[Andy B]

This



Vs This:

According to Google and National Rail, its no contest.

National rail lists journey time of 4 hours 31 mins on train, Google Maps says 7 hours 9 mins. (google does always over estimate a bit, but 3 hours!  )

If he does beat it, he will have to seriously put his foot down

Yes Tunnie but, this is a steam train and will have to stop for water every 100miles! Plus possibly a top up of the lubrication setup (coal should just be ok)

Didn't think a train loco had to actually stop for water ......  :-/

[TheBoy]

I could beat the Chiltern slug on a push bike

Yesterday saw almost record time, 8PM express, did the run in 46 mins.

Is that good  :-?

We've thrown enough money at public tranport, it still doesn't work, way too expensive, and around these parts, slow.

I can't see me doing that run any quicker, be it in car, bus, train, bike.

The Chiltern line is slow by comparison, but thats down to the line, not the company. But its still for me, the best way to get to London.

In 2 years of commuting there has only ever been one big delay, and that was due to a fire at the London signal control, trains are always on time, if late, never by more than a few mins.

With that dumping of snow earlier this year, they ran a full service, with NO delays!

Remember with public transport, you have to take into account getting from home to the place you start public transport, then from the end of that to your final destination.

Anyone here wanting to go into the city, its the wrong option - car is faster, more convenient, and cheaper (even with Livingstone's toilet paper tax)

If we had offices in Marlybone or very close to the A40, i would seriously consider switching to bike!

That would then MAKE sense to use the slugline, as fall off public transport into your offices.

[tunnie]

This



Vs This:

According to Google and National Rail, its no contest.

National rail lists journey time of 4 hours 31 mins on train, Google Maps says 7 hours 9 mins. (google does always over estimate a bit, but 3 hours!  )

If he does beat it, he will have to seriously put his foot down

Yes Tunnie but, this is a steam train and will have to stop for water every 100miles! Plus possibly a top up of the lubrication setup (coal should just be ok)

I guess those water traps between the rails are no longer in use  

Yep, removed (not that long ago though)

Tornado does not have a water scoop fitted anyway.

Its going to be quite a task to fill her up then? I am imagining the filler neck is on top of the boiler? The use to have those big tanks with a swing arm?

The line will have to be err lined   With water tanker trucks with hoses?

[tunnie]

This



Vs This:

According to Google and National Rail, its no contest.

National rail lists journey time of 4 hours 31 mins on train, Google Maps says 7 hours 9 mins. (google does always over estimate a bit, but 3 hours!  )

If he does beat it, he will have to seriously put his foot down

Yes Tunnie but, this is a steam train and will have to stop for water every 100miles! Plus possibly a top up of the lubrication setup (coal should just be ok)

Didn't think a train loco had to actually stop for water ......  :-/

Steam ones do, water creates the steam  

Usually they would have filled up at stations along the route.

[Marks DTM Calib]

This



Vs This:

According to Google and National Rail, its no contest.

National rail lists journey time of 4 hours 31 mins on train, Google Maps says 7 hours 9 mins. (google does always over estimate a bit, but 3 hours!  )

If he does beat it, he will have to seriously put his foot down

Yes Tunnie but, this is a steam train and will have to stop for water every 100miles! Plus possibly a top up of the lubrication setup (coal should just be ok)

I guess those water traps between the rails are no longer in use  

Yep, removed (not that long ago though)

Tornado does not have a water scoop fitted anyway.

Its going to be quite a task to fill her up then? I am imagining the filler neck is on top of the boiler? The use to have those big tanks with a swing arm?

The line will have to be err lined   With water tanker trucks with hoses?

Lol no, the water tank is in the tender (6200 gallons!)

They often use the fire brigade but could also nip into the NRM at york for a re-fill.

[tunnie]

This



Vs This:

According to Google and National Rail, its no contest.

National rail lists journey time of 4 hours 31 mins on train, Google Maps says 7 hours 9 mins. (google does always over estimate a bit, but 3 hours!  )

If he does beat it, he will have to seriously put his foot down

Yes Tunnie but, this is a steam train and will have to stop for water every 100miles! Plus possibly a top up of the lubrication setup (coal should just be ok)

I guess those water traps between the rails are no longer in use  

Yep, removed (not that long ago though)

Tornado does not have a water scoop fitted anyway.

Its going to be quite a task to fill her up then? I am imagining the filler neck is on top of the boiler? The use to have those big tanks with a swing arm?

The line will have to be err lined   With water tanker trucks with hoses?

Lol no, the water tank is in the tender (6200 gallons!)

They often use the fire brigade but could also nip into the NRM at york for a re-fill.

Boiled in 100 miles  

No wonder they switched to diesel

[Marks DTM Calib]

Maintenance is why they switched to diesel!

[Andy B]

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Steam ones do, water creates the steam  

Usually they would have filled up at stations along the route.

My emphasis was on the stopping rather than the need for the stuff. I have come across steam before  . Grey Funnel liners used to run off super heated 550 psi 850^oF steam and had no problems getting hold of water to boil up!

[tunnie]

Maintenance is why they switched to diesel!

and on the subject of that, is a DMU cheaper to maintain that a loco hauled service?

I see that new Wrexham & Shropshire service with envy from London, they have proper engines on their trains and proper carriages.

When i hear them start up the the 67's they sound like a train should do, rather than the weasel powered 165's

[Martin_1962]

This



Vs This:

According to Google and National Rail, its no contest.

National rail lists journey time of 4 hours 31 mins on train, Google Maps says 7 hours 9 mins. (google does always over estimate a bit, but 3 hours!  )

If he does beat it, he will have to seriously put his foot down

The rail timing is for 125mph trains!