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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #45 on: 14 July 2009, 22:02:40 »
Do they have the full powers of arrest?  for some reason I thought I had read they could only make a citizens arrest or wait for full time plod to arrive.
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #46 on: 14 July 2009, 22:04:17 »
PCSO's don't ... Specials do .. AFAIK ..  :)
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #47 on: 14 July 2009, 22:11:30 »
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PCSO's don't ... Specials do .. AFAIK ..  :)

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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #48 on: 14 July 2009, 22:14:11 »
On the couple of occasions that I have been stopped (for speeding :-[) I have refused to leave the car. Its really intimidating for a woman on her own to have to get out of her car to speak to a strange man. I have remained in a locked car with the window cracked open to have the conversation. I didnt have a mobile to do any checks and would have driven to a police station to continue the conversation if required. luckily, no points issued. Officers involved seemed to be ok with the way I dealt with it, must be common for people to be wary.
Have been in cars when other drivers have been stopped and the officers have been like little hitlers. >:(
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #49 on: 14 July 2009, 22:18:04 »
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Do they have the full powers of arrest?  for some reason I thought I had read they could only make a citizens arrest or wait for full time plod to arrive.

A Special Constable holds the same powers (including that of arrest), as a regular constable, on or off duty, in our out of uniform, 24/7. They're issued the same kit, and uniform


 

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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #50 on: 14 July 2009, 22:18:20 »
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On the couple of occasions that I have been stopped (for speeding :-[) I have refused to leave the car. Its really intimidating for a woman on her own to have to get out of her car to speak to a strange man. I have remained in a locked car with the window cracked open to have the conversation. I didnt have a mobile to do any checks and would have driven to a police station to continue the conversation if required. luckily, no points issued. Officers involved seemed to be ok with the way I dealt with it, must be common for people to be wary.
Have been in cars when other drivers have been stopped and the officers have been like little hitlers. >:(
Don't drive to the station up the road from you, they're all tucked up in bed by 9pm and won't answer the door ::) ;D
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #51 on: 14 July 2009, 22:18:58 »
I Wasnt really in the mood to day to be honest. The one with the mouth who was quoting B.S left right and centre, Ive done a little homework on him ,You know the type everything with the uniform a nothing with out it. I'm a firm believer in what goes around comes around. For the time being I'm happy as things are "no harm no foul" kind of thing . The only thing that did annoy me a bit was a sly remark about the walking stick i use .Did i mention that the front of my house is covered by 2 very good CCTV units  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #52 on: 14 July 2009, 22:20:11 »
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Do they have the full powers of arrest?  for some reason I thought I had read they could only make a citizens arrest or wait for full time plod to arrive.

That only applies to PCSO's - who are civillians. PCSOs can only detain for short periods for clear cut circumstances, and  must wait for a Constable (Regular or Special) to attend make the arrest

Specials are sworn/warranted constables who volunteer their services, but are often wrongly confused with PCSOs

There's a lot of confusion :y
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #53 on: 14 July 2009, 22:22:42 »
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Do they have the full powers of arrest?  for some reason I thought I had read they could only make a citizens arrest or wait for full time plod to arrive.

That only applies to PCSO's - who are civillians. PCSOs can only detain for short periods for clear cut circumstances, and  must wait for a Constable (Regular or Special) to attend make the arrest

Specials are sworn/warranted constables who volunteer their services, but are often wrongly confused with PCSOs

There's a lot of confusion :y

i get the impression James they bring a lot of on themselves

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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #54 on: 14 July 2009, 22:23:19 »
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On the couple of occasions that I have been stopped (for speeding :-[) I have refused to leave the car. Its really intimidating for a woman on her own to have to get out of her car to speak to a strange man. I have remained in a locked car with the window cracked open to have the conversation. I didnt have a mobile to do any checks and would have driven to a police station to continue the conversation if required. luckily, no points issued. Officers involved seemed to be ok with the way I dealt with it, must be common for people to be wary.
Have been in cars when other drivers have been stopped and the officers have been like little hitlers. >:(
Don't drive to the station up the road from you, they're all tucked up in bed by 9pm and won't answer the door ::) ;D

think you can talk to a box on the wall though, possibly get more sense out of a wall than welsh police!
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #55 on: 14 July 2009, 22:23:58 »
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Do they have the full powers of arrest?  for some reason I thought I had read they could only make a citizens arrest or wait for full time plod to arrive.

That only applies to PCSO's - who are civillians. PCSOs can only detain for short periods for clear cut circumstances, and  must wait for a Constable (Regular or Special) to attend make the arrest

Specials are sworn/warranted constables who volunteer their services, but are often wrongly confused with PCSOs

There's a lot of confusion :y

i get the impression James they bring a lot of on themselves


How so - got any specifics?

As said earlier, I agree with any environment you get some bad apples but, the majority of SC's I've worked with have been top people
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #56 on: 14 July 2009, 22:27:34 »
did you want specifics of me James or am i mixed up
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #57 on: 14 July 2009, 22:28:39 »
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did you want specifics of me James or am i mixed up

No, I was asking you to give me a specific example, of how you think Special Constables bring confusion with PCSO's upon themselves....
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #58 on: 14 July 2009, 22:42:03 »
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did you want specifics of me James or am i mixed up

No, I was asking you to give me a specific example, of how you think Special Constables bring confusion with PCSO's upon themselves....

I'm not going to go in to it chapter and verse James but i think it revolves around what a special can do and what a pcso can't do .Its my experience that pcso bite of more than they can chew
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Re: IF YOUR STOPPED BY THE POLICE
« Reply #59 on: 14 July 2009, 22:45:27 »
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did you want specifics of me James or am i mixed up

No, I was asking you to give me a specific example, of how you think Special Constables bring confusion with PCSO's upon themselves....

I'm not going to go in to it chapter and verse James but i think it revolves around what a special can do and what a pcso can't do .Its my experience that pcso bite of more than they can chew

Fair enough - you are entiteled to your opinion.

I STILL think you're confusing Special Constbles and PCSO's though  :D :y
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