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[cem_devecioglu]

For all her faults (and there are many) I still think she works hard, shes always got some new project on the go, and several kids, one of them severely disabled. I take my hat off to her to be honest. I suppose most of you can't see beyond screwing her though!

 

although men think negative and talk negative they still become jealous when they see a woman like that near you .. and I like it..

Jealousy is not a nice trait cem! Especially not in a woman!

every occasion has its specific solutions

[LJay]

For all her faults (and there are many) I still think she works hard, shes always got some new project on the go, and several kids, one of them severely disabled. I take my hat off to her to be honest. I suppose most of you can't see beyond screwing her though!

 

although men think negative and talk negative they still become jealous when they see a woman like that near you .. and I like it..

Jealousy is not a nice trait cem! Especially not in a woman!

every occasion has its specific solutions

'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!' Beware the jealous woman!!!
 

[albitz]

Plenty of moral people have clothes on their backs etc,but I would agree Ljay that its very difficult to become very rich and retain morals /principles etc.
But I do seriously worry about people like her being a role model for the next generation.I saw a clip of her programme last night.She got out of a car and there were girls of about 13/14 years of age screraming like she was a godess,asking for her autograph,telling her how they thought she was wonderful etc,..........I found it heartbreaking to be honest that these young innocents highest aspiration was to be like her.

[Nickbat]

To me, the big issue is with her is that she is unable (as many of the young generation are) to make the leap into adult responsibility. Although she has children (one disabled, as has been noted), she seems unwilling, or unable, to give up the attention-seeking and play plain old "Mum". This, along with her original boob-job, suggests to me that she suffers from chronically low self-esteem.

We can call her a whore, a trollop, a sleaze-bag and everything else. However, to me, she is to be pitied, for I don't think she has ever found real happiness, nor is she likely to, until she faces up to her emotional deficiencies.

I believe there are many young girls who lack confidence and self-esteem and wrongly choose parenthood/marriage as the answer to their problems. When it turns out not to be the case, the lure of the previous single life seems to draw them away from childcare and back to the clubbing, leaving the child/husband without the love and attention they crave...

[cem_devecioglu]

For all her faults (and there are many) I still think she works hard, shes always got some new project on the go, and several kids, one of them severely disabled. I take my hat off to her to be honest. I suppose most of you can't see beyond screwing her though!

 

although men think negative and talk negative they still become jealous when they see a woman like that near you .. and I like it..

Jealousy is not a nice trait cem! Especially not in a woman!

every occasion has its specific solutions

'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!' Beware the jealous woman!!!
 

I know..very well

[LJay]

For all her faults (and there are many) I still think she works hard, shes always got some new project on the go, and several kids, one of them severely disabled. I take my hat off to her to be honest. I suppose most of you can't see beyond screwing her though!

 

although men think negative and talk negative they still become jealous when they see a woman like that near you .. and I like it..

Jealousy is not a nice trait cem! Especially not in a woman!

every occasion has its specific solutions

'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!' Beware the jealous woman!!!
 

I know..very well

Really? Did you find that out the hard way then?

[LJay]

To me, the big issue is with her is that she is unable (as many of the young generation are) to make the leap into adult responsibility. Although she has children (one disabled, as has been noted), she seems unwilling, or unable, to give up the attention-seeking and play plain old "Mum". This, along with her original boob-job, suggests to me that she suffers from chronically low self-esteem.

We can call her a whore, a trollop, a sleaze-bag and everything else. However, to me, she is to be pitied, for I don't think she has ever found real happiness, nor is she likely to, until she faces up to her emotional deficiencies.

I believe there are many young girls who lack confidence and self-esteem and wrongly choose parenthood/marriage as the answer to their problems. When it turns out not to be the case, the lure of the previous single life seems to draw them away from childcare and back to the clubbing, leaving the child/husband without the love and attention they crave...

Don't think you can pity someone who has turned herself into a successful, however controversial business!
As for her being a roll model, there seems to be too few people to aspire to these days!

[cem_devecioglu]

To me, the big issue is with her is that she is unable (as many of the young generation are) to make the leap into adult responsibility. Although she has children (one disabled, as has been noted), she seems unwilling, or unable, to give up the attention-seeking and play plain old "Mum". This, along with her original boob-job, suggests to me that she suffers from chronically low self-esteem.

We can call her a whore, a trollop, a sleaze-bag and everything else. However, to me, she is to be pitied, for I don't think she has ever found real happiness, nor is she likely to, until she faces up to her emotional deficiencies.
I believe there are many young girls who lack confidence and self-esteem and wrongly choose parenthood/marriage as the answer to their problems. When it turns out not to be the case, the lure of the previous single life seems to draw them away from childcare and back to the clubbing, leaving the child/husband without the love and attention they crave...

very true 

[Martin_1962]

For all her faults (and there are many) I still think she works hard, shes always got some new project on the go, and several kids, one of them severely disabled. I take my hat off to her to be honest. I suppose most of you can't see beyond screwing her though!

Cocaine induced damage

[cem_devecioglu]

I have model friend which I know from childhood and had a bad family..as Nickbat defined..same case..

and her friends not very different.. :-/

[Nickbat]

To me, the big issue is with her is that she is unable (as many of the young generation are) to make the leap into adult responsibility. Although she has children (one disabled, as has been noted), she seems unwilling, or unable, to give up the attention-seeking and play plain old "Mum". This, along with her original boob-job, suggests to me that she suffers from chronically low self-esteem.

We can call her a whore, a trollop, a sleaze-bag and everything else. However, to me, she is to be pitied, for I don't think she has ever found real happiness, nor is she likely to, until she faces up to her emotional deficiencies.

I believe there are many young girls who lack confidence and self-esteem and wrongly choose parenthood/marriage as the answer to their problems. When it turns out not to be the case, the lure of the previous single life seems to draw them away from childcare and back to the clubbing, leaving the child/husband without the love and attention they crave...

Don't think you can pity someone who has turned herself into a successful, however controversial business!
As for her being a roll model, there seems to be too few people to aspire to these days!

Yes, I can LJ. There are scores of people who appear to be successful, but who will never achieve real happiness. Suicide is not uncommon amongst the most "successful".

[albitz]

Money cant buy happiness/class/dignity/respect.

[Nickbat]

Money cant buy happiness/class/dignity/respect.

Agreed, Albs. 

[cem_devecioglu]

Money cant buy happiness/class/dignity/respect.

agreed..   

but can buy me a V8 which will keep me busy for a while :-/

[albitz]

Agreed Cem.