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[Nickbat]

The internet is buzzing today! Not that you'll read any of it in the papers or see it on TV news, of course.

First a little background to what is a tortuous, but compelling story of skullduggery which blows much of the basis of "global warming" out of the water.

Basically, one of the ways that climate scientists have measured past temperatures is to look at tree rings (dendrochronology). They call this a "proxy" for temperature, since trees are not thermometers. Anyway, no doubt you've read all about how the last thirty years have been the warmest in 200 years blah, blah. That analysis had a strong basis in dendros and suited the views of the two scientists, Jones & Briffa, two Brits from the Met Office's Hadley Centre. Unfortunately, after taking literally years to get hold of the tree ring data, Steve McIntyre of Climate Audit finally gold hold of the data and found they (pro-AGW scientists) had cherry-picked data from only a few trees that had the signal they wanted (a hockey stick showing a huge upswing in temperature in the late 20th century). When McIntyre got hold of the data for more of the same trees, he found that the graph did not swing wildly skywards - it went the other way! His site (Climate Audit) has been so overwhelmed that mirrors have had to be set up. This seems to drive a coach and horses through a major part of the IPCC.

It's all over the web, as I say, but here is a site (Joanne Nova) which gives a good summary.

http://joannenova.com.au/2009/09/breaking-news-cherry-picking-of-historic-proportions/ 

[PhilRich]

It doesn't matter what the real truth of the matter is mate, 'They' have their own agenda and their version of the truth is the one they will ram down our throats and use to empty our pockets! 

[Welung666]

The saying "can't see the wood for the trees" springs to mind! About time the truth was out in the public domain!

[albitz]

The big question is why ?.......it isnt just a matter of a government using it as an excuse to raise taxes etc,the global establishment has become consumed by this and I dont belive that they actually buy into it (their actions say otherwise) so they have a big long term agenda but what is it.
Global government or similar ? :-/ :-/

[Nickbat]

The big question is why ?.......it isnt just a matter of a government using it as an excuse to raise taxes etc,the global establishment has become consumed by this and I dont belive that they actually buy into it (their actions say otherwise) so they have a big long term agenda but what is it.
Global government or similar ? :-/ :-/

The short answer Albs is that I'm unsure. Yes, there, certainly an international political class that has an interest. Read the "Background & Development" PDF on this site:

http://www.apollo-gaia.org/

It's written in couched terms, but the Club of Rome keeps cropping up. Wonder why?

On the other hand, there are big companies like Exelon in the States that stand to make huge amounts of money if the cap-and-trade bill is passed there and are actively lobbying for it.

http://greenhellblog.com/2009/07/28/uscap-members-spend-67-million-to-lobby/

My view is that it started as a push for power by the political elite (incl. the UN) but, as always, big business has seen an opportunity to make easy money. Unlikely bedfellows, it must be said.

However, the more I read about the science the more I see it as a gigantic hoax. But too much money and too many reputations are at stake. Expect much more skullduggery in the next could of months leading up to Copenhagen.

Incidentally, the report today from the Met Office that we'll all fry in 2060, is absolute hogwash.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8279654.stm
I'll quote Lubos Motl here: "..the net UAH warming between 1979 and 2009 has been around 0.4 degrees Celsius. If extrapolated, and such extrapolations of violent short-term trends are likely to be overestimates, that would produce 0.6 degrees Celsius by 2060.

Their figure, 4 degrees Celsius, exceeds this extrapolated figure by a factor of seven, despite the approximate constancy of the CO2 production since 1979. In reality, the warming by 2060 will almost certainly be smaller than 0.6 degrees Celsius.

These people must think that all the other people have the IQ of a pumpkin to buy such manifest nonsense. "

http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/09/four-degrees-celsius-in-50-years.html#more

Exactly, Lubos!

Mind you, funny how the Hadley scientist's name  mentioned in the BBC report above also appears in the earlier "apollo-gaia" PDF linked above.   

[Dishevelled Den]

It's written in couched terms, but the Club of Rome keeps cropping up. Wonder why?



 

Aah Rome, still the desire exists to dominate the world - 'aint history a wonderful meter by which we can adjudge the modern will

[Dishevelled Den]

The big question is why ?.......it isnt just a matter of a government using it as an excuse to raise taxes etc,the global establishment has become consumed by this and I dont belive that they actually buy into it (their actions say otherwise) so they have a big long term agenda but what is it.
Global government or similar ? :-/ :-/

....all part of the design preparation for the NWO in my humble view

[Dishevelled Den]

The internet is buzzing today! Not that you'll read any of it in the papers or see it on TV news, of course.

First a little background to what is a tortuous, but compelling story of skullduggery which blows much of the basis of "global warming" out of the water.

 

...gives a degree of credence to what we've been saying about the science being far from settled.

Will these revelations be allowed to gain traction however :-/ :-/

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

A prediction of a 4 degrees rise by 2070......or possibly 2060...on the TV tonight.

[Brick Tamland]

Meanwhile 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8279654.stm

[Brick Tamland]

A prediction of a 4 degrees rise by 2070......or possibly 2060...on the TV tonight.

Ah break

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

A prediction of a 4 degrees rise by 2070......or possibly 2060...on the TV tonight.

Ah break

Yep.............but you supplied the link.

[Nickbat]

A prediction of a 4 degrees rise by 2070......or possibly 2060...on the TV tonight.

Like I said. Utter drivel. Still as long as the masses see it on telly, it will be believed. 

[Dishevelled Den]

Meanwhile 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8279654.stm

Dr Betts and his colleagues emphasise the uncertainties inherent in the modelling, particularly the role of the carbon cycle.

But he said he was confident the findings were significant and would serve as a useful guide to policymakers.



....in spite of the concerned and furrowed brows, there's always a get-out clause

(taken from that BBC report)

[Dishevelled Den]

]The big question is why ?.......it isnt just a matter of a government using it as an excuse to raise taxes etc,the global establishment has become consumed by this [/highlight]and I dont belive that they actually buy into it (their actions say otherwise) so they have a big long term agenda but what is it.
Global government or similar ? :-/ :-/

....all part of the design preparation for the NWO in my humble view

But he said he was confident the findings were significant and would serve as a useful guide to policymakers.


...and these comments from such 'august' sources will be the instrument used to justify such revenue raising.

(latter text highlight taken from the BBC report referred to by Brick Tamland)