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"I want every child to have the chances I had"

thats certainly going to stretch the education budget DC - have you spoken to George over this? 

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keeps referring to "Labours debt"

so Labour almost brought down the entire world economy?

[Nickbat]

keeps referring to "Labours debt"

so Labour almost brought down the entire world economy?

No, just the UK's. 

[Selseybill]

keeps referring to "Labours debt"

so Labour almost brought down the entire world economy?

No but they like spending money we haven't got

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keeps referring to "Labours debt"

so Labour almost brought down the entire world economy?

No, just the UK's. 

sorry, here was me thinking it was a global recession - as far as i could make out, the tories would have been utterly clueless in dealing with it - i'm not a labour voter but i'm glad GB was at the helm when it hit - he seemed to be one of the few world leaders who realised the implications and came up with a plan - the tories clearly were either clueless (against the NR bailout) or completely unaware of the seriousness of the problem (more likely)


but i think the country will vote tory (well, the southern section anyway) as people like change for changes sake - its cyclical - the tories seem unsure of what theyre policies are or where they stand on europe, they're a shambles - but they'll get elected..............good luck 

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did DC just say he worked in business for 7 years and knows the problems? 

doing what? PR for a failed TV network - hardcore 

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keeps referring to "Labours debt"

so Labour almost brought down the entire world economy?

No, just the UK's. 

sorry, here was me thinking it was a global recession - as far as i could make out, the tories would have been utterly clueless in dealing with it - i'm not a labour voter but i'm glad GB was at the helm when it hit - he seemed to be one of the few world leaders who realised the implications and came up with a plan - the tories clearly were either clueless (against the NR bailout) or completely unaware of the seriousness of the problem (more likely)


but i think the country will vote tory (well, the southern section anyway) as people like change for changes sake - its cyclical - the tories seem unsure of what theyre policies are or where they stand on europe, they're a shambles - but they'll get elected..............good luck 

I seem to recall GB flogged off our gold at rock bottom prices and then proceeded to expand the civil service at an abhorrent rate.  I'm sure there are more examples, but I'm in a rush right now.

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keeps referring to "Labours debt"

so Labour almost brought down the entire world economy?

No, just the UK's. 

sorry, here was me thinking it was a global recession - as far as i could make out, the tories would have been utterly clueless in dealing with it - i'm not a labour voter but i'm glad GB was at the helm when it hit - he seemed to be one of the few world leaders who realised the implications and came up with a plan - the tories clearly were either clueless (against the NR bailout) or completely unaware of the seriousness of the problem (more likely)


but i think the country will vote tory (well, the southern section anyway) as people like change for changes sake - its cyclical - the tories seem unsure of what theyre policies are or where they stand on europe, they're a shambles - but they'll get elected..............good luck 

I seem to recall GB flogged off our gold at rock bottom prices and then proceeded to expand the civil service at an abhorrent rate.  I'm sure there are more examples, but I'm in a rush right now.

thats a fair point  8-)

see you later Nick - i should really be working too....one more cuppa and i'll crack on 

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]"I want every child to have the chances I had"[/highlight]
thats certainly going to stretch the education budget DC - have you spoken to George over this? 

Is that not a reasonable aspiration bj?

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keeps referring to "Labours debt"

so Labour almost brought down the entire world economy?

....does this not mean the debt to which each and every one of us will be liable, in the years to come, as a result of their failed economic polices and poor management?

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DC reminded me of Tony Blair.....in 1996...the year before the election.....
Similar age........similar wealthy........ public school background......both good orators.....although Blair had more passion........and both Conservatives.
P.S..............I should add that I would prefer David Camerons ' wife .......rather than Cherie Blair......should I be given the choice.

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DC wants to cut public spending?

In the middle of a recession :-?

He doesn't get it - I'm beginning to think he may be blowing his big chance 

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DC reminded me of Tony Blair.....in 1996...the year before the election.....
Similar age........similar wealthy........ public school background......both good orators.....although Blair had more passion........and both Conservatives.
P.S..............I should add that I would prefer David Camerons ' wife .......rather than Cherie Blair......should I be given the choice.

he is a Blair-lite - smooth and full of promises, luckily Blair had Brown as chancellor so got to deliver on most of them - DC doesn't have that luxury - no one outside the tory party faithfull believe Georgie O is up to the job I'm afraid - especially and crucially the city 



DC did make some good points about the nanny-state and responsibility although using the tragic death of his son for political gain was at best unfortunate and crass - certainly left a bad taste, everyone knows the story so why bring it up? if you went for a job interview (which is what this is in effect) you wouldn't dredge up past tragedies too appear more human-bad taste and i'll bet he thought long and hard about it - made the wrong call in my opinion.

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DC wants to cut public spending?

In the middle of a recession :-?

He doesn't get it - I'm beginning to think he may be blowing his big chance 

Of course it has to be cut!!! Public spending doesn't generate any wealth for the country, it merely sucks productive money out of the system through taxes and regurgitates it. We need enterprise to pick up. We should be cutting taxes, both corporate and personal and kick starting ethe economy. That's the economic answer. The uneconomic answer is to raise taxes and throw more at the public sector to buy votes....but it won't buy time. Sooner or later the hard facts must be faced. DC looks like he's doing that.

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keeps referring to "Labours debt"

so Labour almost brought down the entire world economy?

No, just the UK's. 

sorry, here was me thinking it was a global recession - as far as i could make out, the tories would have been utterly clueless in dealing with it - i'm not a labour voter but i'm glad GB was at the helm when it hit - he seemed to be one of the few world leaders who realised the implications and came up with a plan - the tories clearly were either clueless (against the NR bailout) or completely unaware of the seriousness of the problem (more likely)


but i think the country will vote tory (well, the southern section anyway) as people like change for changes sake - its cyclical - the tories seem unsure of what theyre policies are or where they stand on europe, they're a shambles - but they'll get elected..............good luck 

 was a global recession

...it was and is bj

as i could make out, the tories would have been utterly clueless in dealing with it

...that's a fair old statement to make in the absence of your having a detailed insight into their take on the matter


but i'm glad GB was at the helm when it hit - he seemed to be one of the few world leaders who realised the implications and came up with a plan

....you may well rue the desire for that gratitude when the full cost of his 'plan' becomes clear



 the tories clearly were either clueless (against the NR bailout) or completely unaware of the seriousness of the problem (more likely)

...but they were not in government bj - how could they have been expected to have had intimate knowledge of the economic standing of both the institutions involved and the nation?

On the other hand GB, as Premier and former Chancellor, had been in power for nearly 12 years up to that point and he didn't see it coming - what does that tell you about his stewardship of the nation's economy?


as people like change for changes sake - its cyclical


...are you sure about that bj? - I have a feeling that people will vote for change because they're fed up with failed government and national chaos

good luck 

..we'll need much more than that irrespective of whomever forms the next government