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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

DC reminded me of Tony Blair.....in 1996...the year before the election.....
Similar age........similar wealthy........ public school background......both good orators.....although Blair had more passion........and both Conservatives.
P.S..............I should add that I would prefer David Camerons ' wife .......rather than Cherie Blair......should I be given the choice.

he is a Blair-lite - smooth and full of promises, luckily Blair had Brown as chancellor so got to deliver on most of them - DC doesn't have that luxury - no one outside the tory party faithfull believe Georgie O is up to the job I'm afraid - especially and crucially the city 


DC did make some good points about the nanny-state and responsibility although using the tragic death of his son for political gain was at best unfortunate and crass - certainly left a bad taste, everyone knows the story so why bring it up? if you went for a job interview (which is what this is in effect) you wouldn't dredge up past tragedies too appear more human-bad taste and i'll bet he thought long and hard about it - made the wrong call in my opinion.

Agreed..........he does seem out of his depth.......he appears to be an intellectual lightweight............. and too frivalous for such an important post.......especially when you compare him to the dour penny pinching presbyterian Gordon Brown.
Gordon Brown far better as Chancellor than P.M. in my view. :-/ :-/

[Dishevelled Den]

DC wants to cut public spending?

In the middle of a recession :-?

He doesn't get it - I'm beginning to think he may be blowing his big chance 

DC wants to cut public spending?


...how can you spend what isn't there bj?
 
The true cost of Brown's mishandling of the economy will impinge upon all our collective pockets in due course but the real cost of the 'quantitive easing' policy - spending what we don't have - will prove to be a much thornier issue to deal with

[Dishevelled Den]

Agreed..........he does seem out of his depth.......he appears to be an intellectual lightweight............. and too frivalous for such an important post.......especially when you compare him to the dour penny pinching presbyterian Gordon Brown.
Gordon Brown far better as Chancellor than P.M. in my view. :-/ :-/

he appears to be an intellectual lightweight............. and too frivalous for such an important post.

...only time will tell that Optio - but surely that's a judgement best made when we are able to see how he performs

presbyterian

...being a dour Presbyterian Ulster/Scot, I can tell you that fact isn't to anyone's advantage 

Gordon Brown far better as Chancellor

...so good in fact, Optio, the nation's on its economic arse and will be for the forseeable future

penny pinching .............Gordon Brown

....indeed so Optio and he's certainly pinched plenty of our pennies - what?

[albitz]

IIrc Gormless has spoken at every opportunity about his son,Imo its wrong for either of them to do it.
I hope you still think he was a great chancellor when you start drawing your pension - he stole it years ago.
I think Cameron is too wishy washy and left wing tbh,but without doubt the lessser of 2 evils.
I cannot understand anyone who works for a living (or who wants to) having anything good to say about Brown.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

IIrc Gormless has spoken at every opportunity about his son,Imo its wrong for either of them to do it.
I hope you still think he was a great chancellor when you start drawing your pension - he stole it years ago.
I think Cameron is too wishy washy and left wing tbh,but without doubt the lessser of 2 evils.
I cannot understand anyone who works for a living (or who wants to) having anything good to say about Brown.

Like an old fashioned "one nation Tory" ....in some respects.

[Nickbat]

"The dangers of climate change are stark and very real. If we don't act now, and act quickly, we could face disaster."

Sorry! Change of mind, lads.

DC is a bit of a thick pillock 

[albitz]

In some respects possibly,but he has the modern political disease - style more important than substance (although he hasnt got the staggering level of insincerity that Bliar had)and is very timid about being British and standing up for Britishness.imo.

[albitz]

"The dangers of climate change are stark and very real. If we don't act now, and act quickly, we could face disaster."

Sorry! Change of mind, lads.

DC is a bit of a thick pillock 

TBH Nick,I think it would ruin his career if he said anything much different,so many people are so convinced it will be a long slow process to turn back the tide.Definetely a case of whoever would weild that particular sword would never wear the crown.In fact the way things are today they could well end up wearing a strait jacket.

[Banjax]

DC wants to cut public spending?

In the middle of a recession :-?

He doesn't get it - I'm beginning to think he may be blowing his big chance 

DC wants to cut public spending?


...how can you spend what isn't there bj?
 
The true cost of Brown's mishandling of the economy will impinge upon all our collective pockets in due course but the real cost of the 'quantitive easing' policy - spending what we don't have - will prove to be a much thornier issue to deal with

without Q.E. the financial system would have imploded - it was drastic but brave and necessary - banks were literally refusing to give out money - something had to be done before we all went under   


the last thing you do is cut public spending - even that right wing conspiracy fruitcake hoover realised that in the 30's in the states

i dont think DC is a bad person, he's certainly intelligent and appears compassionate - but appearing to act brave by cutting spending is exactly the opposite - he knows full well the general public will like the sound of it and he can spout off about "tough choices" and "people want the truth" all he likes - he's just playing to the crowd in my opinion.
yes, we're in masses of debt. yes Brown's light touch regulations certainly opened the floodgates to the unfettered greed of the city - brown's only crime was believing in the markets - as did every other major political party in every democracy across the planet - what would DC have done differently? let the banks fail? he would almost certainly have left the city to its own devices, sure - now he says the Bof E should regain control - well, no S**t Sherlock 

i hope he's as good as he says he is, i wouldn't imagine he will be - based on previous tory governments - but give him a crack at it and we'll drag this thread up in a year to see how well he's doing  8-)

[Lizzie_Zoom]

DC reminded me of Tony Blair.....in 1996...the year before the election.....
Similar age........similar wealthy........ public school background......both good orators.....although Blair had more passion........and both Conservatives.
P.S..............I should add that I would prefer David Camerons ' wife .......rather than Cherie Blair......should I be given the choice.

he is a Blair-lite - smooth and full of promises, luckily Blair had Brown as chancellor so got to deliver on most of them - DC doesn't have that luxury - no one outside the tory party faithfull believe Georgie O is up to the job I'm afraid - especially and crucially the city 


DC did make some good points about the nanny-state and responsibility although using the tragic death of his son for political gain was at best unfortunate and crass - certainly left a bad taste, everyone knows the story so why bring it up? if you went for a job interview (which is what this is in effect) you wouldn't dredge up past tragedies too appear more human-bad taste and i'll bet he thought long and hard about it - made the wrong call in my opinion.

Agreed..........he does seem out of his depth.......he appears to be an intellectual lightweight............. and too frivalous for such an important post.......especially when you compare him to the dour penny pinching presbyterian Gordon Brown.
Gordon Brown far better as Chancellor than P.M. in my view. :-/ :-/

Sorry Optimist but you can call him many things perhaps, but you should never suggest he is an "intellectual lightweight"  As I think most will know he was educated at Eton and then read Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford, gaining a first class honours degree!!

[Nickbat]

"The dangers of climate change are stark and very real. If we don't act now, and act quickly, we could face disaster."

Sorry! Change of mind, lads.

DC is a bit of a thick pillock 

TBH Nick,I think it would ruin his career if he said anything much different,so many people are so convinced it will be a long slow process to turn back the tide.Definetely a case of whoever would weild that particular sword would never wear the crown.In fact the way things are today they could well end up wearing a strait jacket.

I note what you say, but from what I can gather, there is a majority that do not buy into the scam.

Trouble is, he's advised by Zak Goldsmith...someone I would happily watch Bannjaax and Optimist rip to shreds.   

[Auto Addict]

DC wants to cut public spending?

In the middle of a recession :-?

He doesn't get it - I'm beginning to think he may be blowing his big chance 

DC wants to cut public spending?


...how can you spend what isn't there bj?
 
The true cost of Brown's mishandling of the economy will impinge upon all our collective pockets in due course but the real cost of the 'quantitive easing' policy - spending what we don't have - will prove to be a much thornier issue to deal with

without Q.E. the financial system would have imploded - it was drastic but brave and necessary - banks were literally refusing to give out money - something had to be done before we all went under   


the last thing you do is cut public spending - even that right wing conspiracy fruitcake hoover realised that in the 30's in the states

i dont think DC is a bad person, he's certainly intelligent and appears compassionate - but appearing to act brave by cutting spending is exactly the opposite - he knows full well the general public will like the sound of it and he can spout off about "tough choices" and "people want the truth" all he likes - he's just playing to the crowd in my opinion.
yes, we're in masses of debt. yes Brown's light touch regulations certainly opened the floodgates to the unfettered greed of the city - brown's only crime was believing in the markets - as did every other major political party in every democracy across the planet - what would DC have done differently? let the banks fail? he would almost certainly have left the city to its own devices, sure - now he says the Bof E should regain control - well, no S**t Sherlock 

i hope he's as good as he says he is, i wouldn't imagine he will be - based on previous tory governments - but give him a crack at it and we'll drag this thread up in a year to see how well he's doing  8-)

And Labour were better?

[Banjax]

IIrc Gormless has spoken at every opportunity about his son,Imo its wrong for either of them to do it.
I hope you still think he was a great chancellor when you start drawing your pension - he stole it years ago.
I think Cameron is too wishy washy and left wing tbh,but without doubt the lessser of 2 evils.
I cannot understand anyone who works for a living (or who wants to) having anything good to say about Brown.

honestly albs - i don't recall Brown talking about it at all (his son has cyctic fibrosis) - it certainly never featured in any speeches

[Banjax]

"The dangers of climate change are stark and very real. If we don't act now, and act quickly, we could face disaster."

Sorry! Change of mind, lads.

DC is a bit of a thick pillock 

TBH Nick,I think it would ruin his career if he said anything much different,so many people are so convinced it will be a long slow process to turn back the tide.Definetely a case of whoever would weild that particular sword would never wear the crown.In fact the way things are today they could well end up wearing a strait jacket.

I note what you say, but from what I can gather, there is a majority that do not buy into the scam.

Trouble is, he's advised by Zak Goldsmith...someone I would happily watch Bannjaax and Optimist rip to shreds.   

i'm a lover, not a fighter Nickbat 

[albitz]

BJ - the difference between him and Gormless on this issue is that as recently as this summer Gormless was still denying that he would make any cuts,although recently leaked treasury documents have proved him to be a liar (again) as it was already decided that cuts of over 9% would have to be made very soon.Labour would make cuts in spending just the same as the Tories if re- elected ,but they will make cuts which punish the wealth creators and stifle enterprise,its in the Dna.
Nickbat - Goldsmith stated recently that if Cameron doesnt have climate change at the top of his agenda then he will stop supporting him,so I suppose he isnt going to start fighting that particular battle knowing he is very unlikely to win it.I dont suppose he actually believes in it any more than most of the current lot do,as I said,I really do believe that it will be a long term/slow burn remedy to that problem.What the majority of us believe on the subject isnt really the point.That would require a real democracy,and we are a long way from that.Its the chattering classes and the(new?) power brokers globally who are influencing this issue.