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[Marks DTM Calib]

How many people on here would truthfully have known that if you put your hands in plaster of Paris, it would burn your hands off? I'm a reasonably smart man but I didn't bloody know that!

Even if you didn't (and really, you should!), you wouldn't do it as you know how bloody hard it goes!

[Dishevelled Den]

Natural selection at its greatest.......

Your sympathy touches me on so many levels Mark

If you are stupid enough to think stinking your hand in a bucket full of a substance that you know sets rock hard is a sensible thing to do.....then what more can I say!

It would be nice to think that most people would know this is a daft thing to do....or have we dumbed the world down with health and safety to the point where the youth of today cant carry out thier own on the fly risk assesments!

.... that and more unfortunately, if it isn't on a screen or through an earpiece then it doesn't compute - this could be a lost generation

[jonnycool]

How many people on here would truthfully have known that if you put your hands in plaster of Paris, it would burn your hands off? I'm a reasonably smart man but I didn't bloody know that!

Even if you didn't (and really, you should!), you wouldn't do it as you know how bloody hard it goes!

As I said, kids will do stupid things, she couldn't have known that it would set so quickly, she probably thought she'd get her hands out when it was reasonably soft

[albitz]

How many people on here would truthfully have known that if you put your hands in plaster of Paris, it would burn your hands off? I'm a reasonably smart man but I didn't bloody know that!

Even if you didn't (and really, you should!), you wouldn't do it as you know how bloody hard it goes!

As I said, kids will do stupid things, she couldn't have known that it would set so quickly, she probably thought she'd get her hands out when it was reasonably soft

Exactly. ......we are talking about a child/adolescent,in the charge of a teacher.The teacher should have been 100% confident that the pupil knew the risks or fully supervised the pupil imo.
If this was a fully grown adult I probably wouldnt have anywhere near as much sympathy but it isnt.
I would imagine if it happened to any of our kids while they were at school,we would want to hang/draw/quarter the teacher.

[Marks DTM Calib]

We are talking about a 16 year old here, not a 5 year old!

Again, should know better and now paying the price, teacher can only be held to blame for not noticing such a stupid act.

[albitz]

Ime 16 year olds can be more daft than 5 year olds ......but the point is imo,if it happens to one of your kids when they are 16,will you say that it was natural selection at its best? :-/

[Marks DTM Calib]

Ime 16 year olds can be more daft than 5 year olds ......but the point is imo,if it happens to one of your kids when they are 16,will you say that it was natural selection at its best? :-/

I will be un-happy that the teacher didn't notice it, I would question why my child did not know better.....would I be looking for somebodies balls, no. It certainly wouldn't be thing 'the teacher should have told then not to'

Similarly, if they got run down by a bus.....would I be going for the bus driver becuase he did not see the potential danger, slow down and take ovasive action?

Are we sudgesting that plaster of paris needs banning in schools?

[Dishevelled Den]

Yet, a large proportion of the blame has to lie with the individual as we should all be responsible for our actions

I think that's an inescapable fact and that many don't seem to have the common sense to understand it.

[albitz]

No,but imo the teacher has a responsibility to be sure that a pupil is completely aware of the damage that can be done before leaving a pupil to work with it unsupervised.
Whatever the rights/wrongs off the case I cant help but feel deeply sorry for the poor kid,she may have been stupid,not listened properly or whatever,but she has paid a terrible price which has ruined her life.Tbh I found your comment about natural selection crassly insensitive.

[cem_devecioglu]

 :-?

something wrong there.. :-?

it must be hcl or sulphuric acid.. not plaster of paris..

I played with it in school and in home and stuck in it many times..and there is no way to hurt yourself with it like that..or else I could not write now.. :-/

[Chris_H]

There must be more to this since the plaster of paris should not have been going off.  It should have been poured into the molds long before that.

I wonder how many 16-year-olds would put their feet in wet concrete screed to see what happened?

I'm afraid at 16, I would expect better.

[Marks DTM Calib]

No,but imo the teacher has a responsibility to be sure that a pupil is completely aware of the damage that can be done before leaving a pupil to work with it unsupervised.
Whatever the rights/wrongs off the case I cant help but feel deeply sorry for the poor kid,she may have been stupid,not listened properly or whatever,but she has paid a terrible price which has ruined her life.Tbh I found your comment about natural selection crassly insensitive.

It clear its a hard thing to see but, natural selection all be it a harsh way of putting it, is exactly what it is......

[Dishevelled Den]

No,but imo the teacher has a responsibility to be sure that a pupil is completely aware of the damage that can be done before leaving a pupil to work with it unsupervised.
Whatever the rights/wrongs off the case I cant help but feel deeply sorry for the poor kid,she may have been stupid,not listened properly or whatever,but she has paid a terrible price which has ruined her life.Tbh  found your comment about natural selection crassly insensitive.

While the horrific injuries suffered by this young woman when aged 14 won't be forgotten for a lifetime it's a fair enough comment in my view.

Teenagers today should have more ability to assess various unfamiliar situations by applying basic good sense.  That ability - sadly - seems to me missing in a lot of young people and that's something which demands atttention.

[albitz]

That could well be zulu because we bring them up in a totally risk averse way  which leaves them without the common sense which was developed by previous generations.If that is the case here then the girl is still the victim ,a victim of the stupidity of the society she is growing up in,and the idiots who run it.Whatever way you look at it ,I feel desperately sorry for her.Call me an old softie,but which one of us hasnt had mishaps and accidents when we were young which could easily have ended in tragedy?
I still think the fact that the school didnt report this incident to the appropriate authority points to them having breaked up big style and then trying to get away with it. :-/

[KillerWatt]

How many people on here would truthfully have known that if you put your hands in plaster of Paris, it would burn your hands off? I'm a reasonably smart man but I didn't bloody know that!

You don't have to posess a degree in rocket science to realise that if something gets warm when mixed in small amounts, it's going to get even hotter when you increase the mix.

Much as I hate to say it, I'm in agreement with Mark.
Common f**king sense tells you what is going to happen. Unfortunately this pooftah PC world we live in has all but eradicated the train of original thought, and programmed us to believe that when something does go wrong the blame lies with anybody but the "victim" (I use that term very loosely).

We were all young once, can all of you honestly say that you've never done stupid things when you were kids?

I did shit loads of daft things as a kid (eg, riding a home built go-kart with no brakes down a 1:3 hill with a give way line at the bottom), but I was fortunate enough to escape serious injury in the process.
Make no mistake though, we learnt our lesson immediately after that (it's called original thought).

This girl could never have known the risks when she put her hands in that pot, school's fault entirely

Get real, she is 16 years old and has been following art for quite some time prior to this incident....and there is no way an art student doesn't realise how hot plaster of paris gets when you mix it up.

The only crime here is that she has been wrapped in cotton wool and been told that she doesn't have to think for herself...and the only tinkers to blame for that are Brussels!