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Mole

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possible cheap upgrade?
« on: 10 March 2007, 09:46:08 »

spotted this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Omega-2002-Engine-autogearbox-2-2-Ecotec_W0QQitemZ250090884258QQihZ015QQcategoryZ10404QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
could be a cheap way to get more power for my four pot meega. Although it's an auto the engine should be a direct replacement for the 2.0. Right?
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #1 on: 10 March 2007, 09:51:19 »

Erm not quite...

Wiring loom would be the biggest headache with different connectors.

Then there is the the little matter this has an electronic throttle control (fly by wire) and the 2.0 has a normal cable.

There are probably other things I haven't thought of too.

In short, if you want more power, get a V6 and make the work worthwhile! ;)
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #2 on: 10 March 2007, 10:08:36 »

I've already got a v6 but I'm finding it hard to let go of the 2.0 as it just feels so much more nimble than the mv6. Prolly got something to do with the stiffened lowered suspension, lsd and decat pipe/k&n setup the 2.0 has, but I'm working on doing something about that.
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #3 on: 10 March 2007, 10:40:51 »

It would be much easier to fit a 2.5 or 3.0.....
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #4 on: 10 March 2007, 12:04:36 »

Surely you could just use the block and head, and fit your old manifold and Engine management loom?

Although, Dave's right, never worth it for 200cc gain, get a V6 ;D
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #5 on: 10 March 2007, 12:29:44 »

The batomegabile pictured in my avatar now looks somewhat different after I powerwashed most of the paint off.
http://knockhillracingcircuit.fotopic.net/p38346427.html
I have spent a lot of time and not a lot of money making a track car/ play thing and it drives superbly. It just needs a bit more power. I am not convinced that fitting a large lump of cast iron in the shape of a v6 is going to have many benefits. A 2.2 bottom end with a red top head and a set of bike carbs seems a better option. I tend to shy away from doing things the easy way.
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #6 on: 10 March 2007, 14:47:06 »

Actually the V6 is an alloy block. ;)

Power to weight return would be better with the V6.
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #7 on: 10 March 2007, 18:19:19 »

1) You could port and fit hot cams.

2) You could fit the older 16V with 150bhp (1 may be cheaper)

3) Fit the turbo 2.0
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #8 on: 10 March 2007, 19:22:43 »

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Actually the V6 is an alloy block.

Is it really?

I thought it was cast iron. The one here looks iron judging by the rust.

http://www.infohitsystems.ltd.uk/Gallery/Car/P1010040.JPG

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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #9 on: 10 March 2007, 19:58:38 »

I thought it was a cast iron block, alloy heads....  ....but could be wrong.
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #10 on: 10 March 2007, 20:22:37 »

When i had the box off the mv6 it certainly looked like a brown cast iron block.
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #11 on: 10 March 2007, 21:03:07 »

Perhaps i should buy it and pop it in the boot.....for just in case....like why you a spare wheel in the boot?  :-/ ;)
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #12 on: 10 March 2007, 21:12:53 »

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Perhaps i should buy it and pop it in the boot.....for just in case....like why you a spare wheel in the boot?  :-/ ;)

Me dunno man, why me a spare wheel in de boot? 8-)
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #13 on: 11 March 2007, 08:33:26 »

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Actually the V6 is an alloy block.

Is it really?

I thought it was cast iron. The one here looks iron judging by the rust.

http://www.infohitsystems.ltd.uk/Gallery/Car/P1010040.JPG

Kevin

Yes, a quick check later and it is indeed a cast iron block (albeit a better one than the 2.2 ;)) so apologies, I really thought it was an alloy lump. Shame on me!  :-[
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Re: possible cheap upgrade?
« Reply #14 on: 11 March 2007, 08:35:55 »

It is a cast iron block.....but its not a heavy engine......

The 2.2 with bike carbs would be an interesting little project.....
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