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[TheBoy]

Tunnie - replacing that single crap bulb with a single tube ain't gonna cut it in your garage.  I reckon a good 5/6ft tube every other rafter.  While you're they, fit more 13A sockets - under cars in a garage (particularly one with no other light like yours) will always need some leadlamps etc.

Those rechargable florries from costco - like I use for camping - are useful under a car, though not really robust enough.

[feeutfo]

the garage was the first room to be decorated in our house. Much to Mrs G's bemusement. They just dont get it do they.

 Anyway, stripped everything out. Sprayed the walls white with an old sprayer that came in the kit with my compressor. Painted the floor with red floor paint, carpet on top of that, much better for kneeling and lieing on. Pinched some old light fittings from work and put a plug on the end of the cable, they had hooks on the back so screwed some more hooks in the beams and hung them rather than screwing them in so you can move them where ever you need the light. Good for changing donut bushes in the deep mid winter.

Trouble is its only a single garage, if the omega does fit in it, there is bog all chance of working on it as well, just no room, and the bike and tools will have to go elsewhere. No chance. So its a bike and diy work shop really, pillar drill, bench grinder etc and car work is done on the drive which is tarmac and is now cabbaged. So have a couple of rubber mats to lie and kneel on. Should be nice and warm out there too when we move the boiler out there.

[Pitchfork]

the garage was the first room to be decorated in our house. Much to Mrs G's bemusement. They just dont get it do they.

 Anyway, stripped everything out. Sprayed the walls white with an old sprayer that came in the kit with my compressor. Painted the floor with red floor paint, carpet on top of that, much better for kneeling and lieing on. Pinched some old light fittings from work and put a plug on the end of the cable, they had hooks on the back so screwed some more hooks in the beams and hung them rather than screwing them in so you can move them where ever you need the light. Good for changing donut bushes in the deep mid winter.

Trouble is its only a single garage, if the omega does fit in it, there is bog all chance of working on it as well, just no room, and the bike and tools will have to go elsewhere. No chance. So its a bike and diy work shop really, pillar drill, bench grinder etc and car work is done on the drive which is tarmac and is now cabbaged. So have a couple of rubber mats to lie and kneel on. Should be nice and warm out there too when we move the boiler out there.

So the wife's to be bannished to the garage??

[KillerWatt]

No, the passive parts that scatter the light! 

Surprised your J calcs didn't tell you that diffusers don't scatter anything, although I doubt they counter the different light temperatures anyway 

Tunnie - replacing that single crap bulb with a single tube ain't gonna cut it in your garage.  I reckon a good 5/6ft tube every other rafter.  While you're they, fit more 13A sockets

Tunnie (or anybody else that isn't 17th) isn't adding anything to any existing installation, and if they do then they are going to pay dearly if caught.

[TheBoy]

No, the passive parts that scatter the light! 

Surprised your J calcs didn't tell you that diffusers don't scatter anything, although I doubt they counter the different light temperatures anyway 

Tunnie - replacing that single crap bulb with a single tube ain't gonna cut it in your garage.  I reckon a good 5/6ft tube every other rafter.  While you're they, fit more 13A sockets

Tunnie (or anybody else that isn't 17th) isn't adding anything to any existing installation, and if they do then they are going to pay dearly if caught.

I wouldn't trust tunnie with tizzy - bloody students

Come from a family of sparkies, I have enough contacts to do it properly, certificated, and at good rates

[KillerWatt]

No, the passive parts that scatter the light! 

Surprised your J calcs didn't tell you that diffusers don't scatter anything, although I doubt they counter the different light temperatures anyway 

Tunnie - replacing that single crap bulb with a single tube ain't gonna cut it in your garage.  I reckon a good 5/6ft tube every other rafter.  While you're they, fit more 13A sockets

Tunnie (or anybody else that isn't 17th) isn't adding anything to any existing installation, and if they do then they are going to pay dearly if caught.

I wouldn't trust tunnie with tizzy - bloody students

Come from a family of sparkies, I have enough contacts to do it properly, certificated, and at good rates

Don't think much of your family if they charge you when you need something J 

[TheBoy]

No, the passive parts that scatter the light! 

Surprised your J calcs didn't tell you that diffusers don't scatter anything, although I doubt they counter the different light temperatures anyway 

Tunnie - replacing that single crap bulb with a single tube ain't gonna cut it in your garage.  I reckon a good 5/6ft tube every other rafter.  While you're they, fit more 13A sockets

Tunnie (or anybody else that isn't 17th) isn't adding anything to any existing installation, and if they do then they are going to pay dearly if caught.

I wouldn't trust tunnie with tizzy - bloody students

Come from a family of sparkies, I have enough contacts to do it properly, certificated, and at good rates

Don't think much of your family if they charge you when you need something J 

I get freebies from my family.  My friends only get discounts from my family . Can't say fairer than that


And my freebies from my family aren't just their talents etc - for example, one of my brothers always tries to take Mrs TB and I away on hols once a year.  Spent a week playing golf at La Manga in Spain with him in the summer

[KillerWatt]

one of my brothers always tries to take Mrs TB and I away on hols once a year.  Spent a week playing golf at La Manga in Spain with him in the summer

If we're having a pissing competition then we (inc wife & kids) stay with friends (now ex pats) twice a year about 100 miles further south than you, costs us nothing for the entire time except what we drink 

[Vamps]

Just use NOS wiring and say you did it years ago.....

[Kevin Wood]

Just use NOS wiring and say you did it years ago.....

     

Kevin

[TheBoy]

Just use NOS wiring and say you did it years ago.....

     

Kevin

I am running low on my stocks of old wiring.  Not that I would possibly do such a thing anyway

[Marks DTM Calib]

Sadly (or thankfuly), the regs are typical, you can drive a bus through them.

About the only parts truely screwed down relate to changing consumer units plus work in bathrooms and kitchens.

There are enough loop holes in the rest of the regs to allow you to do pretty much anything

[TheBoy]

Sadly (or thankfuly), the regs are typical, you can drive a bus through them.

About the only parts truely screwed down relate to changing consumer units plus work in bathrooms and kitchens.

There are enough loop holes in the rest of the regs to allow you to do pretty much anything

Preety much the same as likes of corgi/gassafe/whatever, seem to be purely in place to help the trade.


Hope they don't put a ban on home mechanics, diy, cutting the lawn....  ...not that I'd put it past them

[tunnie]

No, the passive parts that scatter the light! 

Surprised your J calcs didn't tell you that diffusers don't scatter anything, although I doubt they counter the different light temperatures anyway 

Tunnie - replacing that single crap bulb with a single tube ain't gonna cut it in your garage.  I reckon a good 5/6ft tube every other rafter.  While you're they, fit more 13A sockets

Tunnie (or anybody else that isn't 17th) isn't adding anything to any existing installation, and if they do then they are going to pay dearly if caught.

I wouldn't trust tunnie with tizzy - bloody students

Come from a family of sparkies, I have enough contacts to do it properly, certificated, and at good rates

Since others have seen my dogey bodge job student wiring skills  I was wondering if your brother could put some lights up for me?

Any ideas on cost for say 4 6ft lights, wired in? We have a mains feed going into the garage.

[Marks DTM Calib]

The big problem I have with all these so called rules is that those who were doing dangerous installs (and christ, have I seen some!) will continue to do good work.

Those who were doing a good job which may well have been to a higher standard than that which the regs call for, will now not do the work.

I suspect we will see more unsafe electrical installs longer term as the maintenance work will be put of due to the larger costs......it will be NHS dentist syndrome.