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[Mr Skrunts]

I dont do that much driving anyway, last time out I had a play with the car in all modes, TC on/off and winter mode on/off and a combination of the 2.  I tried it on a slight incline with a of iced over snow.

The car was truly pathetic no matter what I did.

Yes I have a better chance in snow, bit of extra weight in the boot, or even just a full tank of fuel (half full no good - might slosh arround and break traction (even though it may be baffles)) 

Can lower tyre pressures etc.  (Not quite sure what PSI would actually be best)

Any way just replied to a thread on michelin pilots and found they have tread variations.  This pattern caught my eye, ot a winter tyre, but not a s sporty as the other designes  (more grippy tread on out side with smooth band in middle etc)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/195-50-15-Michelin-Pilot-SX-1955015-Part-Worn-x-2_W0QQitemZ320442796453QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cars_Tyres_RL?hash=item4a9be109a5

With this more intense pattern in mind it got me thinking of winter tyres, or a set of road tyres more suitable for winter.

I have a spare set of rims for each car, and dont mind even going to a full set of mus and snow tyres for the snow use if the weather gets bad ( as I have to come in via the country side to were I live now - part of the journey if I vist some of my mates is not a bus route so require quite a detour to get home)

What do members recommned.

Road/winter tyres wise

and depending on cost, even full winter tyres.

Also which would fair better.

GLS wheels on 15" rubber
or
Eliite wheels on 16" rubber.


TIA.   

[Gaffers]

I got some all season tyres when I was in germany and they are great!  It is very hard to spin the back wheels any more even in the wet.  They were only 55€ a pop too!  No extra noise either.  I just hope I can get the same over here, otherwise I may have to have a trip to the Fatherland

[Mr Skrunts]

I got some all season tyres when I was in germany and they are great!  It is very hard to spin the back wheels any more even in the wet.  They were only 55€ a pop too!  No extra noise either.  I just hope I can get the same over here, otherwise I may have to have a trip to the Fatherland

They sound interesting.  What make were they?

All season makes sece, am off to have a look round.

[cem_devecioglu]

imho,these are worth checking

Gislaved: (they are very good)
http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/com/en/gislaved/automobile/themes/pc_tyres/winter/nord_frost_5/technical_details_nf5_en.html

bridgestone blizzak: (I'm using them)
http://www.bridgestone.com/products/passenger_tires/blizzak/index.html

goodyear ultragrip 7+ (I'm using UG 500 on miggy and they are great but production finished and 7+ is a better model)

http://eu.goodyear.com/tr_tr/tires/repository/UltraGrip7/index.jsp

here is ug 500 (studded)
http://eu.goodyear.com/tr_tr/tires/repository/UltraGrip500/index.jsp

[HolyCount]

All season sound good --- snow and ice around this fair land is patchy and is only on the ground for a few days effectively, so a more versatile set of rubber would be better than a dedicated set.

[cem_devecioglu]

All season sound good --- snow and ice around this fair land is patchy and is only on the ground for a few days effectively, so a more versatile set of rubber would be better than a dedicated set.

blizzaks are also very good on dry..

[Gaffers]

I got some all season tyres when I was in germany and they are great!  It is very hard to spin the back wheels any more even in the wet.  They were only 55€ a pop too!  No extra noise either.  I just hope I can get the same over here, otherwise I may have to have a trip to the Fatherland

They sound interesting.  What make were they?

All season makes sece, am off to have a look round.

Found em

http://www.tyresite.com/product.asp?numPageStartPosition=1&P_ID=1154&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&strSearchCriteria=&PT_ID=32

[cem_devecioglu]

imho, I dont like all season tires..

not efficient in summer and also on ice..

[Gaffers]

imho, I dont like all season tires..

not efficient in summer and also on ice..

Not had any probs on these at all during last summer, great in the wet too.  I seem to be getting a bit of understeer in the wet from the lesser able front tyres.  Oversteer seems to be gone in the wet and dry no matter how hard I try

[KillerWatt]

I tried it on a slight incline with a of iced over snow.

What do members recommned.

No amount of electronics (which were only invented for those who can't read the road IMO), or choice of rubber is going to help you on an ice surface.

IMO the best you can hope for is that you know how your car performs under given conditions, and you drive accordingly.

[HolyCount]

I tried it on a slight incline with a of iced over snow.

What do members recommned.

No amount of electronics (which were only invented for those who can't read the road IMO), or choice of rubber is going to help you on an ice surface.

IMO the best you can hope for is that you know how your car performs under given conditions, and you drive accordingly.

Very Wise words 

[Mr Skrunts]

Totally agree KW

Deep snow I have no problem witk especially when it's fresh.  But we havent had that sort of snow since the 70's and 80's.

Last 3 cars have been Carlton/Omega auto's but have not had the snow to go out and play.    hence seeing/trying out traction options ifitted to the car.

I certainly have no need to out if I dont want to, but now that I have a garage and outbuilds I have the chance to summer/winter tyres options and store the spare set.  Which is what I am looking into at the moment.

THere is of course the other option of snow chains, last year Debs posted up  a thread about hers for use on the farm etc.  These could well be the better option and would be in the car if the case of us having a sudden snow fall caught us out like it has done in the past.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Summer or winter..........I find my Wanli Ditchfinders .....pretty good.........at only £50 ...a corner...
I presume that they are a hard compound.....so even if they don't grip like the best premium tyres......at least they should last quite well....

[tunnie]

whats the point in grippy winter tyres? Whole point in RWD is you can pull donuts in the winter 

[KillerWatt]

whats the point in grippy winter tyres? Whole point in RWD is you can pull donuts in the winter 

If you can only get the car to do what you want, when you want in the winter months only....maybe it's time to reappraise just how much control you have