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Re: ADSL Filters
« Reply #1 on: 05 November 2009, 22:13:13 »

Forget the claim of "Increase your internet speed".

There are a number of factors that dictate what speed you get, but replacing the cheap ADSL filter you have for a proper NTE-5 faceplate will not necessarily improve anything for you.

Visit www.samknows.com and tell me what your distance is from your exchange, who your ISP is, what type of ADSL you have, and what the line stats are according to your router.
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Re: ADSL Filters
« Reply #2 on: 05 November 2009, 23:02:20 »

1.5 miles P2P
1.7 miles by road.

Plus net premier account 20:1 contenstion


Modem specs/stats I think the modem has issues and if I log into it may screw up and reboot without resetting, but will be getting replaced shortly anyway.




Before I moved I was .45 miles P2P and got 7.2 with the same test
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Re: ADSL Filters
« Reply #3 on: 05 November 2009, 23:08:50 »

They aren't a bad idea, IMHO. They won't necessarily increase your connection speed as KW says but, if your internal extension wiring is as bad as mine, it can only be a good thing to isolate it from the ADSL signal - then run cat5 cable from the master socket to your router.

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Re: ADSL Filters
« Reply #4 on: 05 November 2009, 23:12:16 »

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They aren't a bad idea, IMHO. They won't necessarily increase your connection speed as KW says but, if your internal extension wiring is as bad as mine, it can only be a good thing to isolate it from the ADSL signal - then run cat5 cable from the master socket to your router.

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Just thinking the same thing.

I have snapped numerous, piggy back/double plug in ones, currenly using one with a short cable on.

In fact I think the BT engineer gave me a double face plate type, just not sure what happened to it.
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« Reply #5 on: 06 November 2009, 09:21:27 »

The i-plate can help, but is unnecessary unless you have really old phones.

Quite simply, the best way to get the best possible speed is

a) have no extension wiring (not always pratical) - this is the method I use
b) try to have each phone socket as a spur off the previous one, rather than a 'star' type wiring
c) use proper phone cabling, not the cheap Woolworths style DIY extension kits
d) Disconnect the ringer wire on all sockets  << In effect what i-plate does
e) Quality filters - the standard BT NET5A ADSL faceplate does appear to be one of the best under most cercumstances. Yet to see a really good plug in microfilter. And lots of plugged in microfilters does reduce SNR


d) can have dramatic effects on lines with low SNR, as the ringer is in effect an aerial picking up noise and throwing on the already low SNR line.


Using techniques above, I'm currently sync'd at 7.1Mbps on a 3.5km line length, and about 2km from exchange.

Speedtests are too erratic (and utterly pointless anyway) to help with getting best from line - sync speed is the key here.  If you must use speedtests, use the special BT login, as this will eliminate your ISP and their network from the equation (only valid on IPStream type products).

Lastly, don't keep rebooting/disconnecting router - this will artifically bugger up your BRAS profile, leading to a lower sync.  And remember, neither sync nor throughput are in any way related to size of manhood, and isn't really **that** important at the end of the day (assuming its not really rubbish)
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Re: ADSL Filters
« Reply #6 on: 06 November 2009, 10:03:11 »

Cheers for the advice.

I have a brand new installation from the pole outside my property.

Incoming cable has face plate added so no extra cable there.

Pair of BT Esprit phones,

So just the ADSL filer (4" cable type)  No spurs/exstensions at all.

Modem/router and DECT base unit pluged dirsectly in filter, all in the bedroom to save clutter in the living room.

Will invest in the double face plate and see if it makes a difference.  (dont think there wil be much of an improvement if any.)
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Re: ADSL Filters
« Reply #7 on: 06 November 2009, 10:09:19 »

nte faceplate will include a much better filter than the poor ones supplied by ISPs/router providers.
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« Reply #8 on: 06 November 2009, 10:11:09 »

As said earlier, the speedtest is no use in this case. You need the sync speed. Without that, you cannot do **any** useful checks on the line's performance
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« Reply #9 on: 06 November 2009, 10:34:47 »

I use one of these:

http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php

And then have Cat5E FTP to connect to the router
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Re: ADSL Filters
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« Reply #11 on: 06 November 2009, 18:05:19 »

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I use one of these:

http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php

And then have Cat5E FTP to connect to the router
I binned my adslnation one when I found a supply of BT ones ::)

For me, the BT ones worked better   (I had an awful line - high attn and low snr, and disconnects several times a day even on a legacy 512k line, but I knew the right people to get that fix :y.  Unlike most of my neighbours, still suffering poor broadband ::))


I'm really pleased with both my lines, bother stability and performance - 7.1Mb sync on a 3.5km is a very good result
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« Reply #12 on: 06 November 2009, 18:08:00 »

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I use one of these:

http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php

And then have Cat5E FTP to connect to the router
Oh yes, and I keep my socket to router cable very short, and make myself from the recommended cable, which is like a flat, but thick phone cord.  I did try cat6 when I had my problems, but made no difference for me (that said, its only about 30" long...
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Re: ADSL Filters
« Reply #13 on: 06 November 2009, 18:09:58 »

My dad has one for his ADSL line and it improved the speed for him :y
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« Reply #14 on: 06 November 2009, 18:10:30 »

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I use one of these:

http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php

And then have Cat5E FTP to connect to the router   

Router to PC RJ45

What about a better quality lead from the Filter to the modem?  (or is that what you meant and I have got it wrong)
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