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[STMO999]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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...you've spat the dummy quite a distance there bj

Nice of you to admit that your analysis has been somewhat wide of the mark - I take no pleasure in pointing this out of course Tally-Ho and TTFN 

  You liar Sir!

[Dishevelled Den]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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...you've spat the dummy quite a distance there bj

Nice of you to admit that your analysis has been somewhat wide of the mark - I take no pleasure in pointing this out of course Tally-Ho and TTFN 

  You liar Sir!

Me----ST?

[Dishevelled Den]

so lets stop arguing about it and depressing each other and get back to having a good laugh like we used to.
It used to be hilarious on here almost every night,but its been greatly lacking in atmosphere recently.The fun seems to have gone out of it for some reason imo.

nail, head 

I think bj just called you a nail head A, which in my view is outrageous

[STMO999]

so lets stop arguing about it and depressing each other and get back to having a good laugh like we used to.
It used to be hilarious on here almost every night,but its been greatly lacking in atmosphere recently.The fun seems to have gone out of it for some reason imo.

nail, head 

I think bj just called you a nail head A, which in my view is outrageous

Cem, can you send some of it over here for Zulu to stir?

[Ghost]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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And I have Proof

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[Banjax]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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...you've spat the dummy quite a distance there bj

Nice of you to admit that your analysis has been somewhat wide of the mark - I take no pleasure in pointing this out of course Tally-Ho and TTFN 

it does read a bit like that zulu, i am sick of pointless arguments with people entrenched in their views so i'll not try to convince people they're wrong - makes for a happier place 

[doog]

There's a moose loose aboot this hoose, bet you didn't know that.

Translation please , urban dictionary dont have explanation for that..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdFtQZ-FibM

 

hahahahaha  wrong type of "moose" though 

Doug

[doog]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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climate change is indeed real however  it not burning fossil fuels that is the real problem.

 It is an issue of over population pure and simple.

The root cause of climate change and virtually all aspects of the global ecological crisis is too many people consuming beyond the carrying capacity of ecosystems to absorb and regenerate from their impact.
The population bomb has exploded and some 6.5 billion people now live on a planet that can probably only support well one billion or less (the population about 125 years ago). How this grotesque overshooting of the biosphere's ecological systems is unwound will have profound impacts upon the quality, and even possibility, of continued human existence. Will just and equitable measures be taken to reduce human numbers through population controls, as China has done somewhat successfully, or will ecological collapse do it much less mercifully?

One more thing to think of  the idea of moving away from fossil fuels to "bio" fuels means in future we will be fighting againts food supply as there is no way to supply both in the numbers required. 

Doug

[Dishevelled Den]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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...you've spat the dummy quite a distance there bj

Nice of you to admit that your analysis has been somewhat wide of the mark - I take no pleasure in pointing this out of course Tally-Ho and TTFN 

it does read a bit like that zulu, i am sick of pointless arguments with people entrenched in their views so i'll not try to convince people they're wrong - makes for a happier place 

Fair enough bj 8-) but to deny debate on the matter flies in the face of balance and informed enquiry.

I'm open minded enough to embrace many opinions and value what you have to say as there's no absolute in these matters -  but to take this action, especially from your apparently entrenched position, fails to make sense

[Dishevelled Den]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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climate change is indeed real however  it not burning fossil fuels that is the real problem.

 It is an issue of over population pure and simple.

The root cause of climate change and virtually all aspects of the global ecological crisis is too many people consuming beyond the carrying capacity of ecosystems to absorb and regenerate from their impact.
The population bomb has exploded and some 6.5 billion people now live on a planet that can probably only support well one billion or less (the population about 125 years ago). How this grotesque overshooting of the biosphere's ecological systems is unwound will have profound impacts upon the quality, and even possibility, of continued human existence. Will just and equitable measures be taken to reduce human numbers through population controls, as China has done somewhat successfully, or will ecological collapse do it much less mercifully?

One more thing to think of  the idea of moving away from fossil fuels to "bio" fuels means in future we will be fighting againts food supply as there is no way to supply both in the numbers required. 

Doug

This inhumanity has been practised on a number of occasions D without success, and in the case of China, for a parent to abandon a female infant simply to comply with government policy can never be just.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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Agreed...............BJ.......not totally convinced that my good friend Mr Nickbat.......will concur though...

[Dishevelled Den]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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Agreed...............BJ.......not totally convinced that my good friend Mr Nickbat.......will concur though...

....and like me Opti, he would be quite right not to

Climate change is indeed evident, however as for mankind being the prime facilitator, the fevered and condescending opinion of the 'pro' lobby realised more on panic inducing, doctrinal and dogmatic statements is far from convincing - more so when the clarion call is being made by Al Gore.

The blatant manipulation of children to convey the message should surely start the alarm bells ringing?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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Agreed...............BJ.......not totally convinced that my good friend Mr Nickbat.......will concur though...

....and like me Opti, he would be quite right not to

Climate change is indeed evident, however as for mankind being the prime facilitator, the fevered and condescending opinion of the 'pro' lobby realised more on panic inducing, doctrinal and dogmatic statements is far from convincing - more so when the clarion call is being made by Al Gore.

The blatant manipulation of children to convey the message should surely start the alarm bells ringing?

Zulu............I believe that far too much unambiguous evidence ....has been gathered over the last thirty or forty years ......for this to still be a debate.
In my opinion.........global warming is real and unimagined......and modern man is responsible......but then again.......what do I know..... 

[Dishevelled Den]

i'm sick of arguing science with people who cherrypick small bits of data and extrapolate to make it fit an argument.
i'm sick of arguing with people who require no proof of an invisible super being yet accept it calmly and rationally as if theres nothing wrong with them, when they're quite clearly as mad as  a box of frogs.
i'm sick of the whole climate change debate, its not a debate, it does exist, man is to blame and man will do nothing to change this - i don't care if you believe this to be the case or not anymore, same as i'll no longer respect anyones religious views - if you believe in invisible superbeings please don't tell me, tell your psychiatrist - they love stuff like that.

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Agreed...............BJ.......not totally convinced that my good friend Mr Nickbat.......will concur though...

....and like me Opti, he would be quite right not to

Climate change is indeed evident, however as for mankind being the prime facilitator, the fevered and condescending opinion of the 'pro' lobby realised more on panic inducing, doctrinal and dogmatic statements is far from convincing - more so when the clarion call is being made by Al Gore.

The blatant manipulation of children to convey the message should surely start the alarm bells ringing?

Zulu............I believe that far too much unambiguous evidence ....has been gathered over the last thirty or forty years ......for this to still be a debate.
In my opinion.........global warming is real and unimagined......and modern man is responsible......but then again.......what do I know..... 

Thank you for continued and balanced input Opti. 8-)

In my view however it's a very big step to assert that we, of recent times, are solely responsible for this change.  Our use of natural resources without care poses a greater risk to the ecological system in my view than this present concern over change caused by CO2.

Considering the fundamental changes to the present social structure demanded by the 'pro' lobby this issue must be debated and debated fully.