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[Vamps]

Now I know this was discussed a few days ago, mostly hearsay iirc.

Yesterday was  very frosty morning, we live in a small village, house is on the primary road through the village.
SWMBO started up the Mig, parked on the road and came back into the house as the car warmed.  I did the same in the Citroen, parked on the drive, nice warm car to get into........
My sister in law who lives, in the far corner of the estate opposite our house, which is in effect a large culdesac, did the same with her 54 reg Nissan 4X4 popping back into the house and upstairs to get something.  She heard some revving, looked out of the window only to see her car being driven off.

Worst thing is, as some members warned, the initial reaction of the Insurance Company is that; as the keys were in it, regardless of engine running, it is not covered........

Brother reckons it is 'scroats' on the off chance, walking the village, knowing that a lot of people will be doing this at school run time. He is a little bit peed off, to say the least........

[Lazydocker]

It's bad news Vamps but....

Proof that Migs are worth bugger all though

[Lazydocker]

Must confess... I generally nip out and start the car... But I live in the middle of nowhere

[Vamps]

I have done it for years, and our village has very few problems, just goes to show how easy it is to get complacent.....

[candyman]

i have a key out system in my van for this. van sits and warms up with it running and i can take the keys out of the igntion and lock the doors. van turns off if handbrake is let off.  van is always warm by the time im leaving!

[cruisetopoland]

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting.  IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&agName=&pCode=080.254

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

[Vamps]

On a modern car, could you lock the car with another key, leaving the first on in warming the engine? just a thought...

[candyman]

apparently its against the law for a vehicle to be left running unattended with the keys in the ign. a lot of the police vehicles over here have it. you could make it with 2 relays and a push switch. the above system is like what the airport fire engines use to keep the engines warm.

[waspy]

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting.  IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&agName=&pCode=080.254

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells
It's given me an idea to make my own though

[Andy H]

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting.  IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&agName=&pCode=080.254

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells
It's given me an idea to make my own though

If your diesel has the diesel fired heater under the front wing you should be able to fit a controller to operate it without the engine running. Saves having to trail mains cables across your drive.

[cruisetopoland]

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting.  IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&agName=&pCode=080.254

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells
It's given me an idea to make my own though

Used one sold on ebay recently at £67....

[waspy]

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting.  IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&agName=&pCode=080.254

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells
It's given me an idea to make my own though

If your diesel has the diesel fired heater under the front wing you should be able to fit a controller to operate it without the engine running. Saves having to trail mains cables across your drive.

She does, but i'm not keeping her
Thank you all the same

[Brick Tamland]

On a modern car, could you lock the car with another key, leaving the first on in warming the engine? just a thought...

I had both keys of my mig on me while reading that and I'm sitting near the front door

Yes it works

[Vamps]

On a modern car, could you lock the car with another key, leaving the first on in warming the engine? just a thought...

I had both keys of my mig on me while reading that and I'm sitting near the front door

Yes it works

Cool, or should I say warm........   might be the way to go if it is very cold......

[Tony H]

Now I know this was discussed a few days ago, mostly hearsay iirc.

Yesterday was  very frosty morning, we live in a small village, house is on the primary road through the village.
SWMBO started up the Mig, parked on the road and came back into the house as the car warmed.  I did the same in the Citroen, parked on the drive, nice warm car to get into........
My sister in law who lives, in the far corner of the estate opposite our house, which is in effect a large culdesac, did the same with her 54 reg Nissan 4X4 popping back into the house and upstairs to get something.  She heard some revving, looked out of the window only to see her car being driven off.

Worst thing is, as some members warned, the initial reaction of the Insurance Company is that; as the keys were in it, regardless of engine running, it is not covered........

Brother reckons it is 'scroats' on the off chance, walking the village, knowing that a lot of people will be doing this at school run time. He is a little bit peed off, to say the least........

Thats some thing that happens alot around here