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« Reply #30 on: 06 January 2010, 21:33:53 »

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does the M1 still have that huge 50mph limit section? If so, and its a late night run, i would do M40 instead of M1.

That 50mph section is massive, and has average cameras. Could make up a lot of time on M40 if doing usual outside lane speeds
Yes, still 50 limit.  M40 is a bloody ridiculous idea though. Apart from going the wrong way, the 50 limit is further north than the m40....

It's the wrong side of the country :o :o :o

Sorry Tunnie, just checked the map.  Thanks for the 'interesting' diversion and, as much as I like getting Tesco points on the companies fuel card, doubt I would be able to explain that one away!   ;)

M1 - 407 miles & 7 hours:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=M1+to:51.677665,0.123596&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3BFWzzGgMdqFn0_w%3B&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=9&via=1&sll=51.68618,0.041199&sspn=1.282196,3.556824&ie=UTF8&ll=51.818803,-0.076904&spn=2.556923,7.113647&z=8

M40 - 431 & 7 hours 21 mins

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=52.116626,-1.345825+to:M40+to:M25&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3B%3BFTb7FgMdKLLu_w%3BFbiZFAMd-rgBAA&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=8&via=1,2&sll=52.116626,0.181274&sspn=2.539992,7.113647&ie=UTF8&z=8

So its 21 mins longer? You would easily make that up going M40 at 80 rather than 50.... (come on everyone does 80)

Its 20 more miles too, but, i bet which ever car you are taking (assuming big Jag / Landy?) will be more fuel efficient at 80, than 50.

Don't think its quite so ridiculous  :y
Of course its bloody ridiculous! Still have to go through the 15m 50mph section of M1?  *AND* fight the M42.

You don't even touch M1  :-?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=52.116626,-1.345825+to:M40+to:M25&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3B%3BFTb7FgMdKLLu_w%3BFbiZFAMd-rgBAA&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=8&via=1,2&sll=52.116626,0.181274&sspn=2.539992,7.113647&ie=UTF8&ll=52.237892,0.439453&spn=2.533079,7.113647&z=8

Not a route I'd choose...

Nor me... The north side of the M25 has lots of roadworks at night and is a complete nightmare :o :o

As a commuter of the M40/M25, i'd take it every time, i hate the M1. Post 7PM road works on M25 are not an issue.
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Re: which route next monday??
« Reply #31 on: 06 January 2010, 21:35:13 »

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Its 20 more miles too, but, i bet which ever car you are taking (assuming big Jag / Landy?) will be more fuel efficient at 80, than 50.

I doubt that's true for any car, TBH.

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I reckon my tractor was about double mpg doing 80 than doing 40. Related to the TC lockup I guess.

My 2.2 is more economical at shade under 80, than doing 50.

 :o Sounds like 5th gear is a bit tall then. I think the opposite will be true in a diesel 4x4.

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« Reply #32 on: 06 January 2010, 21:35:52 »

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does the M1 still have that huge 50mph limit section? If so, and its a late night run, i would do M40 instead of M1.

That 50mph section is massive, and has average cameras. Could make up a lot of time on M40 if doing usual outside lane speeds
Yes, still 50 limit.  M40 is a bloody ridiculous idea though. Apart from going the wrong way, the 50 limit is further north than the m40....

It's the wrong side of the country :o :o :o

Sorry Tunnie, just checked the map.  Thanks for the 'interesting' diversion and, as much as I like getting Tesco points on the companies fuel card, doubt I would be able to explain that one away!   ;)

M1 - 407 miles & 7 hours:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=M1+to:51.677665,0.123596&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3BFWzzGgMdqFn0_w%3B&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=9&via=1&sll=51.68618,0.041199&sspn=1.282196,3.556824&ie=UTF8&ll=51.818803,-0.076904&spn=2.556923,7.113647&z=8

M40 - 431 & 7 hours 21 mins

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=52.116626,-1.345825+to:M40+to:M25&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3B%3BFTb7FgMdKLLu_w%3BFbiZFAMd-rgBAA&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=8&via=1,2&sll=52.116626,0.181274&sspn=2.539992,7.113647&ie=UTF8&z=8

So its 21 mins longer? You would easily make that up going M40 at 80 rather than 50.... (come on everyone does 80)

Its 20 more miles too, but, i bet which ever car you are taking (assuming big Jag / Landy?) will be more fuel efficient at 80, than 50.

Don't think its quite so ridiculous  :y
Of course its bloody ridiculous! Still have to go through the 15m 50mph section of M1?  *AND* fight the M42.

You don't even touch M1  :-?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=52.116626,-1.345825+to:M40+to:M25&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3B%3BFTb7FgMdKLLu_w%3BFbiZFAMd-rgBAA&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=8&via=1,2&sll=52.116626,0.181274&sspn=2.539992,7.113647&ie=UTF8&ll=52.237892,0.439453&spn=2.533079,7.113647&z=8

Not a route I'd choose...

Nor me... The north side of the M25 has lots of roadworks at night and is a complete nightmare :o :o

As a commuter of the M40/M25, i'd take it every time, i hate the M1. Post 7PM road works on M25 are not an issue.
But you don't do the nasty M40 to M1 section of M25.
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« Reply #33 on: 06 January 2010, 21:37:14 »

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Its 20 more miles too, but, i bet which ever car you are taking (assuming big Jag / Landy?) will be more fuel efficient at 80, than 50.

I doubt that's true for any car, TBH.

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I reckon my tractor was about double mpg doing 80 than doing 40. Related to the TC lockup I guess.

My 2.2 is more economical at shade under 80, than doing 50.

 :o Sounds like 5th gear is a bit tall then. I think the opposite will be true in a diesel 4x4.

Kevin
Last time she, err, 'borrowed' a disco TDV6, I tested the high speed economy ::)  (and it wasn't outstanding ::))
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« Reply #34 on: 06 January 2010, 21:38:21 »

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Its 20 more miles too, but, i bet which ever car you are taking (assuming big Jag / Landy?) will be more fuel efficient at 80, than 50.

I doubt that's true for any car, TBH.

Kevin
I reckon my tractor was about double mpg doing 80 than doing 40. Related to the TC lockup I guess.

My 2.2 is more economical at shade under 80, than doing 50.

 :o Sounds like 5th gear is a bit tall then. I think the opposite will be true in a diesel 4x4.

Kevin

In my 75 mile commute, i've experimented with cruise, and its defiantly no more efficient at 50. Tends to sit at 2k rpm then, slighest dip, hill becomes an issue, engine under load, sometimes needs a change down.

80, it feels just right, instant mpg readout is same as 80, and it just seams to float over all the little hills and bumpy sections. In the better weather got 34 mpg over the course of a tank with it set at 80 all the way.

3.0 diesel could well be different, but over the course of a run, i rekon there is very little in it, especially with a big heavy car
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« Reply #35 on: 06 January 2010, 21:38:36 »

Also, that trip down the M40. God its boring.  Esp the bit from the top of Chickenshit Canyon to Beaconsfield.  Always managed to fall asleep on that bit...
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« Reply #36 on: 06 January 2010, 21:39:34 »

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Its 20 more miles too, but, i bet which ever car you are taking (assuming big Jag / Landy?) will be more fuel efficient at 80, than 50.

I doubt that's true for any car, TBH.

Kevin
I reckon my tractor was about double mpg doing 80 than doing 40. Related to the TC lockup I guess.

My 2.2 is more economical at shade under 80, than doing 50.

 :o Sounds like 5th gear is a bit tall then. I think the opposite will be true in a diesel 4x4.

Kevin

In my 75 mile commute, i've experimented with cruise, and its defiantly no more efficient at 50. Tends to sit at 2k rpm then, slighest dip, hill becomes an issue, engine under load, sometimes needs a change down.

80, it feels just right, instant mpg readout is same as 80, and it just seams to float over all the little hills and bumpy sections. In the better weather got 34 mpg over the course of a tank with it set at 80 all the way.

3.0 diesel could well be different, but over the course of a run, i rekon there is very little in it, especially with a big heavy car
Try it without the cruise - dont think the dbw implementations are great for economy
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« Reply #37 on: 06 January 2010, 21:39:52 »

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does the M1 still have that huge 50mph limit section? If so, and its a late night run, i would do M40 instead of M1.

That 50mph section is massive, and has average cameras. Could make up a lot of time on M40 if doing usual outside lane speeds
Yes, still 50 limit.  M40 is a bloody ridiculous idea though. Apart from going the wrong way, the 50 limit is further north than the m40....

It's the wrong side of the country :o :o :o

Sorry Tunnie, just checked the map.  Thanks for the 'interesting' diversion and, as much as I like getting Tesco points on the companies fuel card, doubt I would be able to explain that one away!   ;)

M1 - 407 miles & 7 hours:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=M1+to:51.677665,0.123596&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3BFWzzGgMdqFn0_w%3B&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=9&via=1&sll=51.68618,0.041199&sspn=1.282196,3.556824&ie=UTF8&ll=51.818803,-0.076904&spn=2.556923,7.113647&z=8

M40 - 431 & 7 hours 21 mins

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=52.116626,-1.345825+to:M40+to:M25&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3B%3BFTb7FgMdKLLu_w%3BFbiZFAMd-rgBAA&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=8&via=1,2&sll=52.116626,0.181274&sspn=2.539992,7.113647&ie=UTF8&z=8

So its 21 mins longer? You would easily make that up going M40 at 80 rather than 50.... (come on everyone does 80)

Its 20 more miles too, but, i bet which ever car you are taking (assuming big Jag / Landy?) will be more fuel efficient at 80, than 50.

Don't think its quite so ridiculous  :y
Of course its bloody ridiculous! Still have to go through the 15m 50mph section of M1?  *AND* fight the M42.

You don't even touch M1  :-?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=52.116626,-1.345825+to:M40+to:M25&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3B%3BFTb7FgMdKLLu_w%3BFbiZFAMd-rgBAA&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=8&via=1,2&sll=52.116626,0.181274&sspn=2.539992,7.113647&ie=UTF8&ll=52.237892,0.439453&spn=2.533079,7.113647&z=8

Not a route I'd choose...

Nor me... The north side of the M25 has lots of roadworks at night and is a complete nightmare :o :o

As a commuter of the M40/M25, i'd take it every time, i hate the M1. Post 7PM road works on M25 are not an issue.
But you don't do the nasty M40 to M1 section of M25.

Peak rush hour, yup, thats buggered. But late hours, won't be an issue. Left Sky at 10pm, and its been totally empty on M25
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« Reply #38 on: 06 January 2010, 21:41:03 »

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Its 20 more miles too, but, i bet which ever car you are taking (assuming big Jag / Landy?) will be more fuel efficient at 80, than 50.

I doubt that's true for any car, TBH.

Kevin
I reckon my tractor was about double mpg doing 80 than doing 40. Related to the TC lockup I guess.

My 2.2 is more economical at shade under 80, than doing 50.

 :o Sounds like 5th gear is a bit tall then. I think the opposite will be true in a diesel 4x4.

Kevin

In my 75 mile commute, i've experimented with cruise, and its defiantly no more efficient at 50. Tends to sit at 2k rpm then, slighest dip, hill becomes an issue, engine under load, sometimes needs a change down.

80, it feels just right, instant mpg readout is same as 80, and it just seams to float over all the little hills and bumpy sections. In the better weather got 34 mpg over the course of a tank with it set at 80 all the way.

3.0 diesel could well be different, but over the course of a run, i rekon there is very little in it, especially with a big heavy car
Remember, the disco3 is as aerodynamic as a brick.  I'd wager that it uses 50% more fuel at 80 than it does at 50.
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« Reply #39 on: 06 January 2010, 21:42:19 »

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does the M1 still have that huge 50mph limit section? If so, and its a late night run, i would do M40 instead of M1.

That 50mph section is massive, and has average cameras. Could make up a lot of time on M40 if doing usual outside lane speeds
Yes, still 50 limit.  M40 is a bloody ridiculous idea though. Apart from going the wrong way, the 50 limit is further north than the m40....

It's the wrong side of the country :o :o :o

Sorry Tunnie, just checked the map.  Thanks for the 'interesting' diversion and, as much as I like getting Tesco points on the companies fuel card, doubt I would be able to explain that one away!   ;)

M1 - 407 miles & 7 hours:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=M1+to:51.677665,0.123596&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3BFWzzGgMdqFn0_w%3B&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=9&via=1&sll=51.68618,0.041199&sspn=1.282196,3.556824&ie=UTF8&ll=51.818803,-0.076904&spn=2.556923,7.113647&z=8

M40 - 431 & 7 hours 21 mins

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=52.116626,-1.345825+to:M40+to:M25&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3B%3BFTb7FgMdKLLu_w%3BFbiZFAMd-rgBAA&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=8&via=1,2&sll=52.116626,0.181274&sspn=2.539992,7.113647&ie=UTF8&z=8

So its 21 mins longer? You would easily make that up going M40 at 80 rather than 50.... (come on everyone does 80)

Its 20 more miles too, but, i bet which ever car you are taking (assuming big Jag / Landy?) will be more fuel efficient at 80, than 50.

Don't think its quite so ridiculous  :y
Of course its bloody ridiculous! Still have to go through the 15m 50mph section of M1?  *AND* fight the M42.

You don't even touch M1  :-?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Edinburgh&daddr=52.116626,-1.345825+to:M40+to:M25&hl=en&geocode=FWC7VQMdsFzP_ykjJpilALiHSDEnF-d8exTyZA%3B%3BFTb7FgMdKLLu_w%3BFbiZFAMd-rgBAA&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=8&via=1,2&sll=52.116626,0.181274&sspn=2.539992,7.113647&ie=UTF8&ll=52.237892,0.439453&spn=2.533079,7.113647&z=8

Not a route I'd choose...

Nor me... The north side of the M25 has lots of roadworks at night and is a complete nightmare :o :o

As a commuter of the M40/M25, i'd take it every time, i hate the M1. Post 7PM road works on M25 are not an issue.
But you don't do the nasty M40 to M1 section of M25.

I've been stuck many a time overnight on the M25... Especially where they're renovating the tunnels on the approach to the M11... There's traffic lights and it's not unheard of for there to be 1 lane, alternately used :o :o :o
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« Reply #40 on: 06 January 2010, 21:43:05 »

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You won't cover that section.  I used to do it all day, every day.  Really no point using M40 when you want to end up at M11.
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« Reply #41 on: 06 January 2010, 21:44:53 »

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You won't cover that section.  I used to do it all day, every day.  Really no point using M40 when you want to end up at M11.

Normally i would, but, at night, to avoid that huge 50mph camera section, time can be made up on M40 IMO.
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« Reply #42 on: 06 January 2010, 21:46:42 »

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Peak rush hour, yup, thats buggered. But late hours, won't be an issue. Left Sky at 10pm, and its been totally empty on M25
You won't cover that section.  I used to do it all day, every day.  Really no point using M40 when you want to end up at M11.

Normally i would, but, at night, to avoid that huge 50mph camera section, time can be made up on M40 IMO.
fine, m6 it, but then take the m1 down to london!! Why go the wrong way on the worlds 3rd most boring Motorway (M11 and M5 taking top spots).


Anyway, H21 is a big boy, and can choose the route that suits him best :)
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« Reply #43 on: 06 January 2010, 21:49:28 »

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Peak rush hour, yup, thats buggered. But late hours, won't be an issue. Left Sky at 10pm, and its been totally empty on M25
You won't cover that section.  I used to do it all day, every day.  Really no point using M40 when you want to end up at M11.

Normally i would, but, at night, to avoid that huge 50mph camera section, time can be made up on M40 IMO.
fine, m6 it, but then take the m1 down to london!! Why go the wrong way on the worlds 3rd most boring Motorway (M11 and M5 taking top spots).


Anyway, H21 is a big boy, and can choose the route that suits him best :)

Personally, I'd fly to Stanstead ;D ;D ;D

That he can, but it's good fun debating! ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #44 on: 06 January 2010, 21:50:40 »

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Peak rush hour, yup, thats buggered. But late hours, won't be an issue. Left Sky at 10pm, and its been totally empty on M25
You won't cover that section.  I used to do it all day, every day.  Really no point using M40 when you want to end up at M11.

Normally i would, but, at night, to avoid that huge 50mph camera section, time can be made up on M40 IMO.
fine, m6 it, but then take the m1 down to london!! Why go the wrong way on the worlds 3rd most boring Motorway (M11 and M5 taking top spots).


Anyway, H21 is a big boy, and can choose the route that suits him best :)

Personally, I'd fly to Stanstead ;D ;D ;D

That he can, but it's good fun debating! ;D ;D ;D

With a 2 tonne plus Disco3 as carry on baggage?  Neat!!   ;D
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