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« on: 08 January 2010, 19:48:59 »

went to work in my diesel meega no probs started up the lorry went for a cup of tea to let things warm up 30mins later left the yard got a 100yrds down the road engine stops mechanic shocked to find the fuel lines had froze so much for the fuel tank warmers  ;D ;D ;D boss none to happy  ;D ;D
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Re: frozen diesel
« Reply #1 on: 08 January 2010, 19:55:20 »

I thought diesel these days had additives to stop freezing?   :-/
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« Reply #2 on: 08 January 2010, 19:55:46 »

I seem to remember a good few years back the motorway was full of immobile trucke due to the diesel freezing. The drivers lit fires underneath them (Not recommended).
I thought there was some kind of additive to stop it happening now. :-/
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Re: frozen diesel
« Reply #3 on: 08 January 2010, 20:02:30 »

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went to work in my diesel meega no probs started up the lorry went for a cup of tea to let things warm up 30mins later left the yard got a 100yrds down the road engine stops mechanic shocked to find the fuel lines had froze so much for the fuel tank warmers  ;D ;D ;D boss none to happy  ;D ;D
Ive never known that,so it must be cold. :o
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Re: frozen diesel
« Reply #4 on: 08 January 2010, 20:14:47 »

the fuel pipes run down the chassis from the tank to get an idea of how cold it was I licked my finger and touched the chassis my finger stuck.
The mechanic said because of the narrow pipe and distance it travels to the engine and sitting against the cold metal are the cause of it freezing well he used the term gelling up.
So its now parked up in the shed to warm it up for monday.
my car showed -16.5 when left home the truck showed -18.
« Last Edit: 08 January 2010, 20:15:52 by hoof »
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« Reply #5 on: 08 January 2010, 20:14:48 »

I use a diesel additive called 'Heet' in the tractor and Landy......it prevents gelling in the lines and subsequent strainer/filter blockage.
IME: 'Cherry' diesel seems to gel at even higher temps than DERV....I use 110 volt 'block heaters' in both diesels, so the spare heat from them (under the bonnet) seems to keep the worst of the overnight frigidity at bay.

IIRC: The 'Cloud Point' of typical Red diesel ranges in temperature from 20F to as high as 40F., whereas DERV diesel has a cloud point of -40F.
« Last Edit: 08 January 2010, 20:18:38 by Debs. »
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« Reply #6 on: 08 January 2010, 20:18:17 »

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I seem to remember a good few years back the motorway was full of immobile trucke due to the diesel freezing. The drivers lit fires underneath them (Not recommended).
I thought there was some kind of additive to stop it happening now. :-/


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Re: frozen diesel
« Reply #7 on: 08 January 2010, 20:23:50 »

Once watched something on Siberian winters, they used to go out in a morning and light fires to defrost/thaw the tanks out.
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« Reply #8 on: 08 January 2010, 20:25:37 »

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I use a diesel additive called 'Heet' in the tractor and Landy......it prevents gelling in the lines and subsequent strainer/filter blockage.
IME: 'Cherry' diesel seems to gel at even higher temps than DERV....I use 110 volt 'block heaters' in both diesels, so the spare heat from them (under the bonnet) seems to keep the worst of the overnight frigidity at bay.

IIRC: The 'Cloud Point' of typical Red diesel ranges in temperature from 20F to as high as 40F., whereas DERV diesel has a cloud point of -40F.

Is that hot or cold  :-/
I havent a clue  ::)....i was educated when Celcius was all the rage  ::) :D
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« Reply #9 on: 08 January 2010, 20:31:45 »

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Is that hot or cold  :-/
I havent a clue  ::)....i was educated when Celcius was all the rage  ::) :D

-40F. = -40 C. (parity-point)
 20F. = -6.5 C.
 40F. = 4.5 C.
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Re: frozen diesel
« Reply #10 on: 08 January 2010, 20:37:31 »

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Is that hot or cold  :-/
I havent a clue  ::)....i was educated when Celcius was all the rage  ::) :D

-40F. = -40 C. (parity-point)
 20F. = -6.5 C.
 40F. = 4.5 C.


Should have made him do it himself .. only way a youngster will learn ...  :)

F to C ... subtract 32, multiply by 5, divide by 9

C to F ....  multiply by 9, divide by 5, add 32

Simple innit ..  :)
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« Reply #11 on: 08 January 2010, 20:40:36 »

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Is that hot or cold  :-/
I havent a clue  ::)....i was educated when Celcius was all the rage  ::) :D

-40F. = -40 C. (parity-point)
 20F. = -6.5 C.
 40F. = 4.5 C.


Should have made him do it himself .. only way a youngster will learn ...  :)

F to C ... subtract 32, multiply by 5, divide by 9

C to F ....  multiply by 9, divide by 5, add 32

Simple innit ..  :)


Converter on my mobile phone is even more simple.
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« Reply #12 on: 08 January 2010, 20:46:40 »

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I thought diesel these days had additives to stop freezing?   :-/
It does, but only to a point.

Isuzu have it right - tank heater, line heater, pump heater...it just starts & runs ;)
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Re: frozen diesel
« Reply #13 on: 08 January 2010, 21:18:00 »

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went to work in my diesel meega no probs started up the lorry went for a cup of tea to let things warm up 30mins later left the yard got a 100yrds down the road engine stops mechanic shocked to find the fuel lines had froze so much for the fuel tank warmers  ;D ;D ;D boss none to happy  ;D ;D
Ive never known that,so it must be cold. :o


I was stationed in the Outer Hebrides back in the early 70's we used to put industrial blowers on the tanks, or at least point them at them, or put a small fire under it, how the hell nobody got killed is beyond me. That's the REME for you inventive as ever still the workshop never caught light.
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« Reply #14 on: 08 January 2010, 21:20:53 »

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That's the REME for you inventive as ever still the workshop never caught light.
Nowt wrong with REME.
My BBQ, bike, and all the other shit that has been built (courtesy of the British taxpayer) has worked first time, every time, without incident  ;)
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