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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #15 on: 07 January 2010, 22:08:34 »

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Grievance proceedure, it's bullying.
Assuming your colleague who witnessed the outburst will make a statement otherwise it's just your word against his.

Absolutely correct.  I've just spent 13 weeks on a "get you back to work" type course, and one of the few useful things on it was the material on "bullying in the workplace".  What happened to you is a clear case of bullying and should be dealt with using the appropriate grievance procedure.  Failing that, CAB as suggested or even take it to the Jobcentre. 

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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #16 on: 07 January 2010, 22:10:18 »

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i'd speak to the CAB about some legal alternatives, if your on time, doing your allocated shifts, he has no right to speak to you that way. Its over-time, ie its over your allocated shifts.

I'd give him the 2 fingers, and walk out. But these are bad times for employment, so you need to be careful.
as tunnie says if youve done nowt wrong and have a good work record dont lose yer job over it,hes your supervisor hes not the boss and has np power over your employment apart from putting you down to the boss and making your working life unpleasant therefore keep a record of his attitude towards you and see if collegues will witness for you,gits like him cant be allowed to get away with it
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #17 on: 07 January 2010, 22:10:24 »

Agree with jereboam wholeheartedly ..  and just to get you started ... read here ...

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ResolvingWorkplaceDisputes/DiscriminationAtWork/DG_10026670
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #18 on: 07 January 2010, 22:16:34 »

I think the fact that your collegue made a hasty retreat indicates that he probably will not want to get involved. Your supervisor will only get worse now he has got away with this tirade of abuse against you. Lodge a grievance without delay and document everything. In the meantime get yourself a little pocket note book and log times and dates of any further instances, this can be used as evidence at your hearing. If you are not a member of a union i would suggest you phone ACAS for advice.
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #19 on: 07 January 2010, 22:21:53 »

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I have worked for tossers like that Bertie,imo the best thing to do is wait until you find something else then leave,hopefully at a time which is least convenient for him.He has simply shown that he is unsuitable to be a supervisor and is a tosser.Dont lose any sleep over it. :y
I should add that in my experience incompetent people usually react like this when they have dug themselves into a hole and assume that someone else is going to dig them out of it.That is probably how he got to be a supervisor in the first place, and now you wont pick up the spade and start digging he probably hasnt got a rather clue what to do. ;)
Absolutely spot on. Seen it a thousand times

If he'd had such a problem with you before he should have dealt with it in a professional manner at the time
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #20 on: 07 January 2010, 22:45:37 »

All of the above advice Bertie :y :y :y

Don't give him the satisfaction of you leaving... It is a grievance and if you can't get anything sorted then take it to the Independent Tribunal Service :y :y :y

Chin up mate... Don't let the B*****d get you down :y :y
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #21 on: 08 January 2010, 01:54:10 »

Check if your organisation has a dignity at work policy. If it does invoke it, your supervisor is a bully and a pratt do not let him push you out of a job in this current climate
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #22 on: 08 January 2010, 08:15:18 »

Companies dont have to offer their employees overtime (as far as i can see, him asking u to cover an illness would make it overtime for u)... in that same respect, ur not obliged to to do it. thats the whole point of it being called over time...
Yeh, going for a walk to calm was the best thing, knowing me i probs would have done the opposite, but then im not really one to stand their and take that sorta stuff... be it my boss or not.

If it were me, i would take this further... dont get bullied out of a job u enjoy, go to your supervisors boss, ask your colleague if he/she will back u up as they were witness to it.

Hmm, think im going to hav to go for a walk to calm myself down now.... thats got me all annoyed now hahaha
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #23 on: 08 January 2010, 10:27:03 »

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I was asked last night to cover tonights night shift due to illness...I said i would have to think it over as i had made some plans a little while later i said no to the idea..At which point my supervisor turned very angry towards me and said a few things at me "your not a team player,your a very selfish person and have not pulled your weight since Billys death in november 09....I wish you where not on my team and that if i had the power i would of sacked you long ago!!! You took the piss last year with time off!!(both my parents died within 3 months of each other...) Your a complete waste of space...All of this stunned me into silence as i was not the only person in the room with the supervisor my other colleague looked very nervous and made a hasty exit looking quite shocked....I just sat down in my chair looked at the supervisor and then got up and walked out of the office and went on a patrol to try and clam down before i said or did something i would regret.....This has played on my mind all night and all of today to the point where i am seriously thinking of just handing in my notice and getting out..I thought i was happy here and that i had a good relationship with my supervisor...I mean i`ve always found time to help out and offer a lift when he`s needed one to get a car...Now i just feel like i`ve really been taken for a PRAT...Just feel really low again......
one thing ive learned  over the 19 years ive worked is that no matter what you do for a boss,they are never happy,and so i wont be working for no one else only myself.If that would have been me he spoke to like that,he would have been spitting teeth,and f**k his job. :o
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #24 on: 08 January 2010, 11:46:30 »

A good boss knows how to get the best from his staff/team.  He obviously is a bad boss.
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #25 on: 08 January 2010, 11:53:40 »

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I was asked last night to cover tonights night shift due to illness...I said i would have to think it over as i had made some plans a little while later i said no to the idea..At which point my supervisor turned very angry towards me and said a few things at me "your not a team player,your a very selfish person and have not pulled your weight since Billys death in november 09....I wish you where not on my team and that if i had the power i would of sacked you long ago!!! You took the piss last year with time off!!(both my parents died within 3 months of each other...) Your a complete waste of space...All of this stunned me into silence as i was not the only person in the room with the supervisor my other colleague looked very nervous and made a hasty exit looking quite shocked....I just sat down in my chair looked at the supervisor and then got up and walked out of the office and went on a patrol to try and clam down before i said or did something i would regret.....This has played on my mind all night and all of today to the point where i am seriously thinking of just handing in my notice and getting out..I thought i was happy here and that i had a good relationship with my supervisor...I mean i`ve always found time to help out and offer a lift when he`s needed one to get a car...Now i just feel like i`ve really been taken for a PRAT...Just feel really low again......
one thing ive learned  over the 19 years ive worked is that no matter what you do for a boss,they are never happy,and so i wont be working for no one else only myself.If that would have been me he spoke to like that,he would have been spitting teeth,and f**k his job. :o

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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #26 on: 08 January 2010, 13:37:47 »

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I was asked last night to cover tonights night shift due to illness...I said i would have to think it over as i had made some plans a little while later i said no to the idea..At which point my supervisor turned very angry towards me and said a few things at me "your not a team player,your a very selfish person and have not pulled your weight since Billys death in november 09....I wish you where not on my team and that if i had the power i would of sacked you long ago!!! You took the piss last year with time off!!(both my parents died within 3 months of each other...) Your a complete waste of space...All of this stunned me into silence as i was not the only person in the room with the supervisor my other colleague looked very nervous and made a hasty exit looking quite shocked....I just sat down in my chair looked at the supervisor and then got up and walked out of the office and went on a patrol to try and clam down before i said or did something i would regret.....This has played on my mind all night and all of today to the point where i am seriously thinking of just handing in my notice and getting out..I thought i was happy here and that i had a good relationship with my supervisor...I mean i`ve always found time to help out and offer a lift when he`s needed one to get a car...Now i just feel like i`ve really been taken for a PRAT...Just feel really low again......
one thing ive learned  over the 19 years ive worked is that no matter what you do for a boss,they are never happy,and so i wont be working for no one else only myself.If that would have been me he spoke to like that,he would have been spitting teeth,and f**k his job. :o

well said that man
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Doug

If it weren't for the current lack of jobs I'd agree... Although I'd have told him to take it dry :o :o :D :D
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #27 on: 08 January 2010, 13:44:23 »

As already mentioned utilise the dignity at work policy.

If he alledges there are performance issues they should have been raised during supervision/performance review meetings , no issues discussed with you = no issues give you grief for. Good luck, but don't ignore the situation as you will feel crapper for it.
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #28 on: 08 January 2010, 22:38:41 »

I spoke to the other colleague who witnessed the problem the other day and he does not want to get involved...Because he thinks it should just be allowed to blow over as the supervisor was felling under the weather and was stressed out(nothing to do with the fact they both go drinking together)due to senoir management in Bham not supporting us as a team and employing a new 5th team member before the contract expires and we go over to the new company on feb 1st....I know where i stand now as when i came in for work tonight the reception was colder than outside my supervisor made 3 comments to me in the 1st five minutes all answers to my routine questions Any probs? any jobs to be done? Am i logged in? after that he sat in his chair i sat in mine and did my job...I`ve already started looking for another job wether it will be in security or back driving 7 an alfs we will have to see but i aint walking till i got sumat else and plus i wanna see what this new security company do with the retail park contract in terms of hours,rota and pay as from what i understand the hours we have been working are now illegal we`ve been working upto 84 hour weeks in the past year....I understand thats above and beyond whats legally expected of you...... :-/
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Re: Time to move on?
« Reply #29 on: 08 January 2010, 22:46:14 »

It's amazing how gung ho some people are when commenting on other peoples problems.....

I wonder if these bravehearts would really do what they say they would do......if they were actually put in the situation themselves......??

I doubt it

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