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« on: 11 January 2010, 01:36:02 »

Am being idle.

Widows 7 Ultimate, going to give it a bash.  How much space is recommeded for the install.

Going to try it on an SSD drive.  But I also want to dual boot it with XP Pro.  Would like to install both on the SSD, are there any issues with partitiong an SSD drive or do they have to be left as one..  Will be using one for the 1st time.  Not sure if they can or cant be split as never used one before.
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #1 on: 11 January 2010, 07:33:56 »

recommends 16Gb  :y
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #2 on: 11 January 2010, 09:07:07 »

Side of box in my grubby mits says 16Gb for 32bit, 20Gb for 64bit.

Obviously this is minimum.

It will install in 10Gb, but not 8Gb.


As, even if you select another drive for installation, a load of application junk will always end up on C:, as will at least part of the pagefile, and hibernate files, I would say double that is a sensible minimum.
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #3 on: 11 January 2010, 09:23:24 »

I tried it recently and found it excellent for what I use it for (ie surfing and email and office stuff).

Easy to use and just as good as XP. I only used it for a week though as I didn't have a licence for it :y
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #4 on: 11 January 2010, 09:31:51 »

I only had problem with a scanning software for samsung scx 4100 (no problem with printer).. Other than that working happily with msi nvidia , avermedia tv card, us robotics camera , multiple disks etc..

I guess you wont need to use XP again.. no need to complicate the scenario..

One point I must remind whatever code you run it doesnt have admin privilages , if you need that right click and use run as admin..

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #5 on: 11 January 2010, 10:12:02 »

I think you posted the other day about having older pc equipment - I would not change to windows 7 if I were you unless you have needs that would be addressed by 7. XP is a very good product. We installed 7 on an identical machine to one running XP with 1 gb membory and it was  a disaster - had to put on more memory and still slower. A lot depends what you want to do with it.
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #6 on: 11 January 2010, 11:20:37 »

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I only had problem with a scanning software for samsung scx 4100 (no problem with printer).. Other than that working happily with msi nvidia , avermedia tv card, us robotics camera , multiple disks etc..

I guess you wont need to use XP again.. no need to complicate the scenario..

One point I must remind whatever code you run it doesnt have admin privilages , if you need that right click and use run as admin..

Ultimate (and Professional) has XP Mode - a modified use of Virtual PC, that integrates quite well into Win7, with apps running in the XP VM running on the Win7 desktop (ie, not on an XP desktop).  Works pretty well, though probably not suitable for heavy, constant use.
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #7 on: 11 January 2010, 11:22:39 »

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I think you posted the other day about having older pc equipment - I would not change to windows 7 if I were you unless you have needs that would be addressed by 7. XP is a very good product. We installed 7 on an identical machine to one running XP with 1 gb membory and it was  a disaster - had to put on more memory and still slower. A lot depends what you want to do with it.
If the PC is older than 3 yrs, or was a particularly naff PC, and came with XP, then probably better sticking to XP.

If it is a Core2 or later, I'd probably bite the bullet.

If it has Vista on it, I'd defo bite the bullet.
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« Reply #8 on: 11 January 2010, 11:25:16 »

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I think you posted the other day about having older pc equipment - I would not change to windows 7 if I were you unless you have needs that would be addressed by 7. XP is a very good product. We installed 7 on an identical machine to one running XP with 1 gb membory and it was  a disaster - had to put on more memory and still slower. A lot depends what you want to do with it.

 :-?

I'm using win 7 on 2 machines with 1 gb.. one p4 3ghz, another core duo  1.8.. and working faster than when they had xp..



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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #9 on: 11 January 2010, 11:29:00 »

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I think you posted the other day about having older pc equipment - I would not change to windows 7 if I were you unless you have needs that would be addressed by 7. XP is a very good product. We installed 7 on an identical machine to one running XP with 1 gb membory and it was  a disaster - had to put on more memory and still slower. A lot depends what you want to do with it.

 :-?

I'm using win 7 on 2 machines with 1 gb.. one p4 3ghz, another core duo  1.8.. and working faster than when they had xp..



Lots more comes into play - chipset, disk, decent disk controller with correct driver.  Win7 is harder on disks than XP.
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #10 on: 11 January 2010, 11:31:57 »

and a note for those tv card users who want to use  camera for live chat,   msn by default see that tv card  >:( so misleads you .. from the msn menus you can choose the capture device.. and correct the problem..
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #11 on: 11 January 2010, 13:58:20 »

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (Retail)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 (reviews seem to rate it over the stock fan) and quieter.
Asus P5Q Deluxe
GTX8800 (For Now)
4GB DDR2

Should be OK for win 7

Installing on a 64GB SSD, hence why I asked about partitioning.  probably run 50% for each.
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #12 on: 11 January 2010, 14:01:41 »

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Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (Retail)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 (reviews seem to rate it over the stock fan) and quieter.
Asus P5Q Deluxe
GTX8800 (For Now)
4GB DDR2

Should be OK for win 7

Installing on a 64GB SSD, hence why I asked about partitioning.  probably run 50% for each.
I'd be inclined to stick to standard cooler, unless you need silent, in which case you've picked wrong one.  Stock coolers seem to be massively more reliable.

I'd be wary storing data on SSD without backing up elsewhere - SSDs still unproven, and the underlying technology is prone to data corruption.
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #13 on: 11 January 2010, 14:10:02 »

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Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (Retail)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 (reviews seem to rate it over the stock fan) and quieter.
Asus P5Q Deluxe
GTX8800 (For Now)
4GB DDR2

Should be OK for win 7

Installing on a 64GB SSD, hence why I asked about partitioning.  probably run 50% for each.
I'd be inclined to stick to standard cooler, unless you need silent, in which case you've picked wrong one.  Stock coolers seem to be massively more reliable.

I'd be wary storing data on SSD without backing up elsewhere - SSDs still unproven, and the underlying technology is prone to data corruption.

No data at all will be stored on the SSD.  I allways move the "My Favourites" intp"My Documents" and then move that to a seperate drive.

I learnt very early on when an install/herd drive screwed up with 1000's of cross linked files, if the system suffers a total screw up or wipe out it may need formating or replacing, so my data never lives on the C: or if possible, not even the same hard drive.

Partitioning = Any forseen problems, or do thay just have to be kept as one drive.  Never used one, thats why I am asking numpty questions.   :-[
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #14 on: 11 January 2010, 14:11:18 »

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I'd be inclined to stick to standard cooler, unless you need silent, in which case you've picked wrong one.  Stock coolers seem to be massively more reliable.

What do you recommend.

Edit:-  Just to add, it all going in a flat case, rather than an upright.  Will also be having some thermally controlled case fans in in case I fit more hard drives....... ::)
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