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[Mr Skrunts]

Just wait until I instruct Philip to join you lot!!


 

Bless you Lizzie, I might just do that.   

[Mr Skrunts]

Just wait until I instruct Philip to join you lot!!


 

But i'm already here Liz

You are a mere knight.

Guess what my tittle is. 

[jereboam]

Ma`am.......
Meus optimus regina , ego sum vestri vernula.

In the spirit of pedantry oft observed on this forum, may I most respectfully enquire if you actually meant

Mea regina optima, ego sum tua serva

My Latin is very, very rusty, and I failed my 'O' Level twice about 48 years ago, so please accept my deepest apologies if I have misunderstood your meaning.

Of course, I could ask my wife (University Latin course) but she'd ask me why I'm wasting my time on this.  Or my daughter ('A' Level Latin), but she's far to busy.  Or my friend Roger who translates early religious texts as a hobby and has produced one of the best Latin translation tools available on the Internet, but he wouldn't be amused.  Or I could even go and get the (unopened) Latin Grammar book someone gave me for Christmas two years ago.  (No, I don't know why.  It must have seemed like a good idea at the time )

Or just bl**dy put me out of my misery and tell me what it means

[Entwood]

Loosly translated I believe its

"My great Queen, I am your servant"

but it is a long time since I did any Latin ..

and I think Debs version the more accurate ..  but willing to be proved wrong ...

EDIT

Google found me this site ...

http://www.translation-guide.com/free_online_translators.php?from=Latin&to=English

Debs version translates as : "My best queen , I to be your servant"

Jers is : "My queen aristocratics , I to be your being saved"

so Debs gets my vote .. 

[Debs.]

  ........Or I could even go and get the (unopened) Latin Grammar book someone gave me for Christmas two years ago........

Is that type of gift usual?

The 'dodgy' Latin was just meant in jest; no need to wrack brains much-worthier (and doubtlessly well versed) than ours.

[jereboam]

  Or I could even go and get the (unopened) Latin Grammar book someone gave me for Christmas two years ago

Is that type of gift usual?

The 'dodgy' Latin was just meant in jest; no need to wrack brains much-worthier (and doubtlessly well versed) than ours.

If "useless" can be categorised as a type, then the answer has to be yes!

More specifically, that happens to be the first Latin grammar anyone has ever given me.  The same year, I was given a book of Shakespeare quiz questions which were so difficult, I never got off the first page.   

I will say no more.  And my apologies for doubting your linguistic skills.

[jereboam]

Loosly translated I believe its

"My great Queen, I am your servant"

but it is a long time since I did any Latin ..

and I think Debs version the more accurate ..  but willing to be proved wrong ...

EDIT

Google found me this site ...

http://www.translation-guide.com/free_online_translators.php?from=Latin&to=English

Debs version translates as : "My best queen , I to be your servant"

Jers is : "My queen aristocratics , I to be your being saved"

so Debs gets my vote .. 

That's very interesting.  I've looked at several translators this evening, and they all seem to be word-based, rather than phrase or sentence based.  My effort was an attempt to impose what I remember of Latin grammar onto what Debs wrote; in particular, I tried to make the possessive pronouns and adjectives agree with the noun they qualify.  Main problems were that "optimus" has specialised meanings, and "ego sum" just isn't used in Latin - the "ego" is implicit in the "sum". 

But I have a challenge here, and I will crack it!

[Dishevelled Den]

These great words are perhaps as relevent today as they were when spoken at Tilbury in 1588;


My loving people,


    We have been persuaded by some that are careful of our safety, to take heed how we commit our selves to armed multitudes, for fear of treachery; but I assure you I do not desire to live to distrust my faithful and loving people. Let tyrants fear, I have always so behaved myself that, under God, I have placed my chiefest strength and safeguard in the loyal hearts and good-will of my subjects; and therefore I am come amongst you, as you see, at this time, not for my recreation and disport, but being resolved, in the midst and heat of the battle, to live and die amongst you all; to lay down for my God, and for my kingdom, and my people, my honour and my blood, even in the dust. I know I have the body but of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too, and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should dare to invade the borders of my realm; to which rather than any dishonour shall grow by me, I myself will take up arms, I myself will be your general, judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field. I know already, for your forwardness you have deserved rewards and crowns; and We do assure you in the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. In the mean time, my lieutenant general shall be in my stead, than whom never prince commanded a more noble or worthy subject; not doubting but by your obedience to my general, by your concord in the camp, and your valour in the field, we shall shortly have a famous victory over those enemies of my God, of my kingdom, and of my people.

[STMO999]

These great words are perhaps as relevent today as they were when spoken at Tilbury in 1588;


My loving people,


    We have been persuaded by some that are careful of our safety, to take heed how we commit our selves to armed multitudes, for fear of treachery; but I assure you I do not desire to live to distrust my faithful and loving people. Let tyrants fear, I have always so behaved myself that, under God, I have placed my chiefest strength and safeguard in the loyal hearts and good-will of my subjects; and therefore I am come amongst you, as you see, at this time, not for my recreation and disport, but being resolved, in the midst and heat of the battle, to live and die amongst you all; to lay down for my God, and for my kingdom, and my people, my honour and my blood, even in the dust. I know I have the body but of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too, and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should dare to invade the borders of my realm; to which rather than any dishonour shall grow by me, I myself will take up arms, I myself will be your general, judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field. I know already, for your forwardness you have deserved rewards and crowns; and We do assure you in the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. In the mean time, my lieutenant general shall be in my stead, than whom never prince commanded a more noble or worthy subject; not doubting but by your obedience to my general, by your concord in the camp, and your valour in the field, we shall shortly have a famous victory over those enemies of my God, of my kingdom, and of my people.

And your point is?

[Dishevelled Den]

These great words are perhaps as relevent today as they were when spoken at Tilbury in 1588;


My loving people,


    We have been persuaded by some that are careful of our safety, to take heed how we commit our selves to armed multitudes, for fear of treachery; but I assure you I do not desire to live to distrust my faithful and loving people. Let tyrants fear, I have always so behaved myself that, under God, I have placed my chiefest strength and safeguard in the loyal hearts and good-will of my subjects; and therefore I am come amongst you, as you see, at this time, not for my recreation and disport, but being resolved, in the midst and heat of the battle, to live and die amongst you all; to lay down for my God, and for my kingdom, and my people, my honour and my blood, even in the dust. I know I have the body but of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too, and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should dare to invade the borders of my realm; to which rather than any dishonour shall grow by me, I myself will take up arms, I myself will be your general, judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field. I know already, for your forwardness you have deserved rewards and crowns; and We do assure you in the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. In the mean time, my lieutenant general shall be in my stead, than whom never prince commanded a more noble or worthy subject; not doubting but by your obedience to my general, by your concord in the camp, and your valour in the field, we shall shortly have a famous victory over those enemies of my God, of my kingdom, and of my people.

And your point is?

  splendid 

[albitz]

That speech puts me in mind of Tony Blair.Selfless service to ones country etc.












 

[jereboam]

These great words are perhaps as relevent today as they were when spoken at Tilbury in 1588;


My loving people,


    We have been persuaded by some that are careful of our safety, to take heed how we commit our selves to armed multitudes, for fear of treachery; but I assure you I do not desire to live to distrust my faithful and loving people. Let tyrants fear, I have always so behaved myself that, under God, I have placed my chiefest strength and safeguard in the loyal hearts and good-will of my subjects; and therefore I am come amongst you, as you see, at this time, not for my recreation and disport, but being resolved, in the midst and heat of the battle, to live and die amongst you all; to lay down for my God, and for my kingdom, and my people, my honour and my blood, even in the dust. I know I have the body but of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too, and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should dare to invade the borders of my realm; to which rather than any dishonour shall grow by me, I myself will take up arms, I myself will be your general, judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field. I know already, for your forwardness you have deserved rewards and crowns; and We do assure you in the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. In the mean time, my lieutenant general shall be in my stead, than whom never prince commanded a more noble or worthy subject; not doubting but by your obedience to my general, by your concord in the camp, and your valour in the field, we shall shortly have a famous victory over those enemies of my God, of my kingdom, and of my people.

Please remind me - I didn't do history at school. 

1588 - Spanish Armada.  Francis Drake playing bowls on Plymouth Hoe.  Spanish fleet struggling in the Bay of Biscay.

What exactly was HM QE1 doing in Tilbury?  Booking a quick passage to Holland in case it all went wrong?

[Dishevelled Den]

Please remind me - I didn't do history at school. 

1588 - Spanish Armada.  Francis Drake playing bowls on Plymouth Hoe.  Spanish fleet struggling in the Bay of Biscay.

What exactly was HM QE1 doing in Tilbury?  Booking a quick passage to Holland in case it all went wrong?

Trying to keep the chaps motivated perhaps;


This famous speech was given by British monarch Elizabeth I in 1588 as England prepared for an invasion by King Philip of Spain and his powerful Armada. Victory for the English was in no way certain, but the expected invasion was averted when an unexpected and powerful wind blew the Armada away from the English shores.

[Dishevelled Den]

That speech puts me in mind of Tony Blair.Selfless service to ones country etc.




 

Where do you think he lifted it from?

[albitz]

Please remind me - I didn't do history at school. 

1588 - Spanish Armada.  Francis Drake playing bowls on Plymouth Hoe.  Spanish fleet struggling in the Bay of Biscay.

What exactly was HM QE1 doing in Tilbury?  Booking a quick passage to Holland in case it all went wrong?

Trying to keep the chaps motivated perhaps;


This famous speech was given by British monarch Elizabeth I in 1588 as England prepared for an invasion by King Philip of Spain and his powerful Armada. Victory for the English was in no way certain, but the expected invasion was averted when an unexpected and powerful wind blew the Armada away from the English shores.

The word around Essex is, she was actually looking for Lakeside shopping centre.