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[Nickbat]

"Motorists and air passengers face higher “green taxes” under Conservative plans to fund tax breaks for married couples, The Daily Telegraph can disclose."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/7047828/Tory-tax-on-drivers-to-pay-for-marriage-allowance.html

I could make many comments about this, but since I concur with everything written about it in the link below, I'll let it do the talking...

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/01/agendas-merge.html

PS Wonder where they got that Tory poster from? 

[waspy]

That's easy to answer. I'll just marry my Omega

[Kevin Wood]

George Osborne denied there was any truth in the Telegraph article on the Today programme this morning. :-/

Cameron does, in general, appear to be doing an appalling job of shooting at an open goal though. 

Kevin

[Nickbat]

George Osborne denied there was any truth in the Telegraph article on the Today programme this morning. :-/

Cameron does, in general, appear to be doing an appalling job of shooting at an open goal though. 

Kevin

Then it is true, then. 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

The dire situation of this country's finances mean that any party that forms the government after the next election must raise taxes where they can, not only to pay for any amendments of policy but also to pay off our huge debts that the Labour Government have lumbered us with!

We can debate where, how or not of these taxes, but how else can any government pay for our debts?  If it is taxes on flying, lets face it still a luxury for most, then so be it.  If it is on motoring, I for one am not happy.  But if there is no other way to avoid wholesale cuts in public services and the raising of tax on other essential commodities (like food??), then so be it!  I would be keen though to see tax on cigarettes and alcohol doubled if that is what is required.

One thing for sure, we cannot continue to live beyond our means!!

[Nickbat]

The dire situation of this country's finances mean that any party that forms the government after the next election must raise taxes where they can, not only to pay for any amendments of policy but also to pay off our huge debts that the Labour Government have lumbered us with!

We can debate where, how or not of these taxes, but how else can any government pay for our debts?  If it is taxes on flying, lets face it still a luxury for most, then so be it.  If it is on motoring, I for one am not happy.  But if there is no other way to avoid wholesale cuts in public services and the raising of tax on other essential commodities (like food??), then so be it!  I would be keen though to see tax on cigarettes and alcohol doubled if that is what is required.

One thing for sure, we cannot continue to live beyond our means!!

Try cutting public spending. It's not rocket science (although to most on the Westminster gravy train, it seems to be).

[Nickbat]

...and we could also save money by rethinking our membership of the EUSSR.

EU membership costs us £5.7m per hour, or £96,271 per minute.

Simples. 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

The dire situation of this country's finances mean that any party that forms the government after the next election must raise taxes where they can, not only to pay for any amendments of policy but also to pay off our huge debts that the Labour Government have lumbered us with!

We can debate where, how or not of these taxes, but how else can any government pay for our debts?  If it is taxes on flying, lets face it still a luxury for most, then so be it.  If it is on motoring, I for one am not happy.  But if there is no other way to avoid wholesale cuts in public services and the raising of tax on other essential commodities (like food??), then so be it!  I would be keen though to see tax on cigarettes and alcohol doubled if that is what is required.

One thing for sure, we cannot continue to live beyond our means!!

Try cutting public spending. It's not rocket science (although to most on the Westminster gravy train, it seems to be).

They are, as it is not "public spending" around the offices of Whitehall due to that producing only very limited savings compared to the billion we owe!  No, in reality it is the Armed Services, the NHS, Education, Social Services, the Police Service, Transport, amongst others that are in the firing line!

Do we really want any of those cut?............sorry, no time to answer as they are being cut as we speak!!

[Dishevelled Den]

...and we could also save money by rethinking our membership of the EUSSR.
EU membership costs us £5.7m per hour, or £96,271 per minute.

Simples. 

Outstanding

[Lizzie_Zoom]

...and we could also save money by rethinking our membership of the EUSSR.
EU membership costs us £5.7m per hour, or £96,271 per minute.

Simples. 

Outstanding

But leaving the EU in the foreseeable future is not a realistic option Nick, so tax increases / spending cuts must come from else where in both the short and long term.   'Fantasy' cuts will not happen, and instead our politicians must focus on the facts of the real today

[Banjax]

thanks Nickbat - good link to the Euro guy - I have to tell you tho I'm genuinely shocked by this..........the Tories actually have a plan???

for my tuppence tho I don't think Cameron is genuine when he does all this greenie stuff, I think he thinks its what people want to hear, but he's rapidly finding that it isn't and, more crucially it's not what his party want to hear - cue massive backtracking/denials etc from the worm-faced squirmer   

[Dishevelled Den]

...and we could also save money by rethinking our membership of the EUSSR.
EU membership costs us £5.7m per hour, or £96,271 per minute.

Simples. 

Outstanding

But leaving the EU in the foreseeable future is not a realistic option Nick, so tax increases / spending cuts must come from else where in both the short and long term.   'Fantasy' cuts will not happen, and instead our politicians must focus on the facts of the real today

I think that's a fair comment Elizabeth but I wonder if it's possible to re-negoiate our level of financial contribution?

[Lizzie_Zoom]

...and we could also save money by rethinking our membership of the EUSSR.
EU membership costs us £5.7m per hour, or £96,271 per minute.

Simples. 

Outstanding

But leaving the EU in the foreseeable future is not a realistic option Nick, so tax increases / spending cuts must come from else where in both the short and long term.   'Fantasy' cuts will not happen, and instead our politicians must focus on the facts of the real today

I think that's a fair comment Elizabeth but I wonder if it's possible to re-negoiate our level of financial contribution?

Very unlikely in the foreseeable future Zulu, and that will take time.  This country has not the benefit of that luxury

[Dishevelled Den]

...and we could also save money by rethinking our membership of the EUSSR.
EU membership costs us £5.7m per hour, or £96,271 per minute.

Simples. 

Outstanding

But leaving the EU in the foreseeable future is not a realistic option Nick, so tax increases / spending cuts must come from else where in both the short and long term.   'Fantasy' cuts will not happen, and instead our politicians must focus on the facts of the real today

I think that's a fair comment Elizabeth but I wonder if it's possible to re-negoiate our level of financial contribution?

Very unlikely in the foreseeable future Zulu, and that will take time.  This country has not the benefit of that luxury

I can agree that, however the thing that ticks me off is the continual default of considering the motorist as being a cash-cow to, and panacea for, the financial ills of the nation.

I haven't read the Telegraph article in full but when the 'green' word is invoked by DC I smell the malign influence of Zac bloody Goldsmith and Tim friggin' Yeo.

I understand that front line services have to be protected from spending cuts as much as possible but I would suggest that there are other areas of public expenditure that can be justifiably targeted - quangos and the like.

[Lazydocker]

UK Plc could save a fortune if they closed the door and returned illegal immigrants... All the other countries can do it :-? :-?

Perhaps a reduction in benefits for the people who turn up, cap in hand, from other countries expecting a hand out