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[STMO999]

But its a SKODA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes. A skoda. Reliable, cheap to run, modern technology........I can see why it would seem totally alien to an omega owner.

[Amigo]

All new cars in this class are bland & overpriced & you'll never love it. It'll serve it's purpose but you'll never really enjoy it...or own it.
 If you can't afford to run the Mig sell her & buy a little car.

[STMO999]

All new cars in this class are bland & overpriced & you'll never love it. It'll serve it's purpose but you'll never really enjoy it...or own it.
 If you can't afford to run the Mig sell her & buy a little car.

The lad is rather attached to his money, as any sane person is. I can understand someone parting with his hard-earned for, say, a classic jag. But a rather mass produced rust bucket? Nah.

[cem_devecioglu]

looking at the picture you have right,

but personally I'd prefer to drive my own car whatever the cost is..(logic vs feelings )

similiar to living in your own house (and paying mortgage)  or staying in rent..

Yeah, good point cem, but we own our own house and my priority is my wife and young lad-except I spend all my spare time and all of the family money fixing the car 

The other worry is the fuel cost increase, any further road tax rises and what happens when something major blows up?
The goverment (rightly or wrongly-not the debate!) is trying to push us into eco cars and when your money is tight, it all helps..

 

now although being an old LPG user, for miggy I didnt install LPG... got a second small car for daily runabouts which is also cheaper and practical for crowded traffic.. (and also for wife).. but total cost nearly after two years is just a disaster ..

however I like them both and now finally decided to install LPG to miggy cause petrol here exceeding 1.51 £/litre 

and a note good quality LPG installations like Prins is around 1400-1500£ here

That's cheap if a fitted price... Prins conversions over here would be closer to £2000

  thats a price for a v12!

the price I give is for the best set and #1 LPG installer in my city including official paperwork, licenses etc..

[Lazydocker]

looking at the picture you have right,

but personally I'd prefer to drive my own car whatever the cost is..(logic vs feelings )

similiar to living in your own house (and paying mortgage)  or staying in rent..

Yeah, good point cem, but we own our own house and my priority is my wife and young lad-except I spend all my spare time and all of the family money fixing the car 

The other worry is the fuel cost increase, any further road tax rises and what happens when something major blows up?
The goverment (rightly or wrongly-not the debate!) is trying to push us into eco cars and when your money is tight, it all helps..

 

now although being an old LPG user, for miggy I didnt install LPG... got a second small car for daily runabouts which is also cheaper and practical for crowded traffic.. (and also for wife).. but total cost nearly after two years is just a disaster ..

however I like them both and now finally decided to install LPG to miggy cause petrol here exceeding 1.51 £/litre 

and a note good quality LPG installations like Prins is around 1400-1500£ here

That's cheap if a fitted price... Prins conversions over here would be closer to £2000

  thats a price for a v12!

the price I give is for the best set and #1 LPG installer in my city including official paperwork, licenses etc..

Just out of interest Cem... How much is LPG at the pump over there?

[hotel21]

Main point to consider is that the car is effectively a long term hire car.  once the deal ends, you have spent your cash and have no residual to potentially use as a deposit on another, or indeed a car to sell on...

[cem_devecioglu]

looking at the picture you have right,

but personally I'd prefer to drive my own car whatever the cost is..(logic vs feelings )

similiar to living in your own house (and paying mortgage)  or staying in rent..

Yeah, good point cem, but we own our own house and my priority is my wife and young lad-except I spend all my spare time and all of the family money fixing the car 

The other worry is the fuel cost increase, any further road tax rises and what happens when something major blows up?
The goverment (rightly or wrongly-not the debate!) is trying to push us into eco cars and when your money is tight, it all helps..

 

now although being an old LPG user, for miggy I didnt install LPG... got a second small car for daily runabouts which is also cheaper and practical for crowded traffic.. (and also for wife).. but total cost nearly after two years is just a disaster ..

however I like them both and now finally decided to install LPG to miggy cause petrol here exceeding 1.51 £/litre 

and a note good quality LPG installations like Prins is around 1400-1500£ here

That's cheap if a fitted price... Prins conversions over here would be closer to £2000

  thats a price for a v12!

the price I give is for the best set and #1 LPG installer in my city including official paperwork, licenses etc..

Just out of interest Cem... How much is LPG at the pump over there?

0.78£/litre :-/

[Lazydocker]

looking at the picture you have right,

but personally I'd prefer to drive my own car whatever the cost is..(logic vs feelings )

similiar to living in your own house (and paying mortgage)  or staying in rent..

Yeah, good point cem, but we own our own house and my priority is my wife and young lad-except I spend all my spare time and all of the family money fixing the car 

The other worry is the fuel cost increase, any further road tax rises and what happens when something major blows up?
The goverment (rightly or wrongly-not the debate!) is trying to push us into eco cars and when your money is tight, it all helps..

 

now although being an old LPG user, for miggy I didnt install LPG... got a second small car for daily runabouts which is also cheaper and practical for crowded traffic.. (and also for wife).. but total cost nearly after two years is just a disaster ..

however I like them both and now finally decided to install LPG to miggy cause petrol here exceeding 1.51 £/litre 

and a note good quality LPG installations like Prins is around 1400-1500£ here

That's cheap if a fitted price... Prins conversions over here would be closer to £2000

  thats a price for a v12!

the price I give is for the best set and #1 LPG installer in my city including official paperwork, licenses etc..

Just out of interest Cem... How much is LPG at the pump over there?

0.78£/litre :-/

Hmmm.... Actually a better saving (%) than I get locally to me then

[cem_devecioglu]

looking at the picture you have right,

but personally I'd prefer to drive my own car whatever the cost is..(logic vs feelings )

similiar to living in your own house (and paying mortgage)  or staying in rent..

Yeah, good point cem, but we own our own house and my priority is my wife and young lad-except I spend all my spare time and all of the family money fixing the car 

The other worry is the fuel cost increase, any further road tax rises and what happens when something major blows up?
The goverment (rightly or wrongly-not the debate!) is trying to push us into eco cars and when your money is tight, it all helps..

 

now although being an old LPG user, for miggy I didnt install LPG... got a second small car for daily runabouts which is also cheaper and practical for crowded traffic.. (and also for wife).. but total cost nearly after two years is just a disaster ..

however I like them both and now finally decided to install LPG to miggy cause petrol here exceeding 1.51 £/litre 

and a note good quality LPG installations like Prins is around 1400-1500£ here

That's cheap if a fitted price... Prins conversions over here would be closer to £2000

  thats a price for a v12!

the price I give is for the best set and #1 LPG installer in my city including official paperwork, licenses etc..

Just out of interest Cem... How much is LPG at the pump over there?

0.78£/litre :-/

Hmmm.... Actually a better saving (%) than I get locally to me then

the govt cant load more taxes on LPG as its mostly used on inner and eastern parts of country for cooking and heating where Russian and Iranian gas cant reach..

[albitz]

I have been through similar with my Omega. Had a period of about 18 months of every time I fixed one thing, something else went wrong with it.I believe the triggers broom tag is one that I originally used on here to describe mine.The wife got sick of it and after a while  and so did I.
It has been pretty reliable recently though because I suspect I have ironed out the problems one by one and now got to the point where I wanted to be with it when I first bought it.
I swore I would never have another one and have recently replaced it with something else.I am starting to reconsider a bit though because I like big luxury cars and if I go to an LS400 or 7 series I may end up with huge repair bills if things go wrong with them,
If I get another Omega however I will have a certain amount of experience at working on them and if I get stuck there is a wealth of info and cheap spares available on here and that is a difficult thing to put a price on, but I know you cant find it  (or certainly not to the same degree) anywhere else.

[cruisetopoland]

But its a SKODA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go and look at the new Superb and be amazed-it's nothing like you would imagine if you are not familiar with the brand over recent years-especially the 2009- Superb.  Think Audi A6 and its near enough....

The 3.6V6 4wd (Audi quattro/VWsyncro drivetrain) is a bit extravagant, but the Eco version, the 67mpg TDI Greenline would be good.

[Marks DTM Calib]

I had one last week and was pretty underwhelmed......a very bland affair which served as a A to B shifter but, that was it (it was a diseasel)

I could not live with it.

As for reliability, its a VAG so it it wont be as good as you are led to beleave.

Clearly your decision is made, so why discuss further and clearly saving money has nothing to do with it because your not...

[belldarr]

it sounds like your sick of the Omega eating up all your disposable income AND your spare time - you want to have a hassle free mode of transport and know your not going to be spending the weekend taking the car to bits so you can get to work on Monday - You basically want to try and FIX the cost of the car so you can get on with your life!

Go for the Skoda - its a good car!! the warranty is superb and you can sell the omega and get a good holiday out of it for all the trouble it's caused you.

Dont look back - look forward

Darren

[cruisetopoland]

I had one last week and was pretty underwhelmed......a very bland affair which served as a A to B shifter but, that was it (it was a diseasel)

I could not live with it.

As for reliability, its a VAG so it it wont be as good as you are led to beleave.

Clearly your decision is made, so why discuss further and clearly saving money has nothing to do with it because your not...

Morning Mark

I'm stuck really-I like the Omega, but it is causing a headache in the family because of the cost and time involved.  We have no spare money, so paying out for the Skoda is a big ask, but we need a big car and have few options.

I was hoping that the car would have been sorted to a good standard by now, but everything I fix then creates another job.  I've just spent so much and would not get it back if I sold the Omega though  so should just kkep it.

I don't mean to harp on about the Superb, but it did seem to fit the bill for little money, even if not directly comparable to the Omega.

[Radar]

I can get a Skoda Superb Greenline TDI for £250 inc vat pcm on a 2 year personal lease of 20K mpa.

This is the cheap to run Ecodiesel version with mpg of 67.3 extra urban-my usual type of driving and mixed 55.4mpg compared to my 25-30mpg in the Omega.

This includes tax and Euro breakdown cover, but not maintenance which would be one service of £230 and maybe 2 tyres, say £160, plus misc say;
Total maintenance of £400.
Lease cost over 2 years £6400
£1815 fuel (20k miles at 55mpg, 363 gall @ £5)
Total £8215.

Omega over 2 years 20k miles
28mpg= 714 gall; £3571 fuel
Road tax £380
Breakdown cover Europe £200
MOTs £90
Servicing, tyres, maintenance, repairs; lets be kind and say £2500 over 2 years (spent 2k+ in 3 mths!!)
Total £6651

Difference £1564 or £65 per month to drive a brand new 5* crash rated car with full warranty.
Insurance same price for me.

Am I missing something?
At present I am spending over £65 per month in Omega related phone calls and fuel to get to repair places and club members, plus approx 50 hours per month trying to keep it going.

(For the pedants  , the figures are simple and approx for comparison, eg mpg and £5 gallon, maintenance costs)

I know the Superb will be seen as a down trade by some, but I like them and they fit our needs well-and would be less hassle.
What do you think?

Since you've already spent alot on the omega i would think you would not need to spend £2500 over the next 2 yrs on it. Also in 2 years you would still get a few hundred for the car so these 2 things would close the gap. Maybe get a diesel omega?

Yes-I think you have hit the nail square on; if I had not bought the Omega and had leased something instead at that time, it would have made sense, but now I have spent 2k++ in the last few months, it is best to keep going to recover some of the expenditure.  At least I know most of it has been replaced-as wellung666 calls it "Trigger's broom" 

Also note you will most likely have some expenditure on the skoda - tyres and any other things, which has not been put into your calculation.