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[Entwood]

AFAIK and reading numerous sources ....

The inspection is ONLY required to allow you to connect your 'van to the "public grid".... site owners will need to see the report in order before you connect to the EHU. As the busybodies who invented this believe you "may" connect to the public grid at home, if you don't have the inspection done you have to sign a disclaimer at your caravan service centre..... this is to get them off the hook if it all goes pearshaped.

The Inspection includes  500volt insulation testing, so ALL appliances and electronics must be disconnected BEFORE the insulation test is done .. or they'll simply be frazzled .. it takes time to disconnect then reconnect everything

All switches/plugs/wires are inspected. As many of these are behind units/falsework there is a degree of dismantling required .. this takes time.

BTW  .. this only applies to 240 system .. not the 12 v system ..... at the moment.

Now the cruncher .....  It is the person who does the inspection who decides when the next one is due, between 12 months and 3 years .... "depending on the circumstances and use of the caravan" ... as they have no idea what usage it will get ... my bet is they all go for 12 months as a "H&S" call 

so   my place charges £68 an hour ...   4 hours ...?? £272. Every 12 months.... in addition to the compulsory service to maintain the waranty.

And ...... my next bet ....  the makers will then insist on this inspection in order maintain the warranty .....

so .. a nice little earner thought up to fleece the actual buyers and users, under the pretence of "H&S"  .. again.

I've been 'vaning over 20 years and know of NO instances where injury has been caused by a mains electric problem inside a van.. as the RCD has always tripped .. as it should... 

 

[Kevin Wood]

Now the cruncher .....  It is the person who does the inspection who decides when the next one is due

Sounds like the usual trade association BS. Legislating to "generate work" for their members.

Kevin

[alfie]

Hello everyone,would you allow these workshop fellows to pull the guts out of your pride and joy to check the wiring hasn,t been chewed by a bloodly mouse.
If so you must have more faith in them ,than me.I,ve had 4 new vans and every one of them has been delivered with a list of faults despite the chargeable PDI.
I think that this is just a scam to get rule abiding vanners to cough up more money to the dealers for a worthless bit of paper.
                                      Alfie.

[MickAP]

Hello everyone,Vanners be warned that the NCC,that is the body that makes the rules and regs for the carvan industry and sites are making big changes,which will affect a lot us.
They are introducting a P I R test on the electical wiring in the van,Could be yearly or every 2 to 3 years thats up to the engineer.
You do not need to have it done,BUT site owners can refuse you hook ups.
This inspection will take up to 4 hours Plus the normal service,so it will not be cheap. For more info go to either the NCC web page or Practical caravans forum (under general)page.
I myself think that this is just a money making scam by the NCC to generate more income for the caravan servicing dealers.
                           Alfie
   

I think it's all a load of hype......NCC or CC website says nowt, unless I've missed something :-?

Looking at some EHU on sites leaves a lot to be  desired. And the CC know this as they have upgraded lots of them recently. My van is due a service next month so I will enquire, they are NCC approved

Mick

[sexydaz]

Hello everyone,would you allow these workshop fellows to pull the guts out of your pride and joy to check the wiring hasn,t been chewed by a bloodly mouse.
If so you must have more faith in them ,than me.I,ve had 4 new vans and every one of them has been delivered with a list of faults despite the chargeable PDI.
I think that this is just a scam to get rule abiding vanners to cough up more money to the dealers for a worthless bit of paper.
                                      Alfie.

caravans are a mass produced product on a production line and one persons fault is not a fault to another,the condition you accept your new van in largely depends on the dealer there is some horror stories out there and what do you mean by the chargeable pdi do you mean the delivery costs  if so that charge goes largely to the transportation of your new van to the dealers and the pdi and cleaning inside and out comes at a cost that isnt met by the manufacturer,profit on a van sale is a lot less than people think and there will always be a screw loose here and there and a possible bad connection after the bumpy ride home

[Martin_1962]

Right - I am NOT paying to have this done.

I have noticed that hookups generally have RCDs.

I can check quite easily that all the insulation is OK.

If CC enforce this I will not renew membership and not use their sites - I reckon CLs will ignore it.

Time for a very noisy generator

Or print my own on my printer

[Marks DTM Calib]

Buy an isolating transformer and get it certified and PAT tested...then connect the pikey wagon to the output....

Much cheaper and your then not connected to the grid

[Martin_1962]

Buy an isolating transformer and get it certified and PAT tested...then connect the pikey wagon to the output....

Much cheaper and your then not connected to the grid

And we pay fixed amount anyway

[Lazydocker]

Sales of generators may increase 

& ear defenders

Oh, joy!  I'vejust bought a new tent as well.

What's wrong with a 12v battery?

Kevin

What's wrong with a Hotel, not getting infront of everyone & holding them up

I think caravans should be slapped with a green tax, considering how un-environmentally friendly they are. The do more damage than a Range Rover

But still greener than a fight I'm not biting on that one

[Vamps]

Sales of generators may increase 

& ear defenders

Oh, joy!  I'vejust bought a new tent as well.

What's wrong with a 12v battery?

Kevin

What's wrong with a Hotel, not getting infront of everyone & holding them up

I think caravans should be slapped with a green tax, considering how un-environmentally friendly they are. The do more damage than a Range Rover

But still greener than a fight I'm not biting on that one

I think all Caravans should be destroyed, TB is absolutely right in what he says about them......

[Martin_1962]

Sales of generators may increase 

& ear defenders

Oh, joy!  I'vejust bought a new tent as well.

What's wrong with a 12v battery?

Kevin

What's wrong with a Hotel, not getting infront of everyone & holding them up

I think caravans should be slapped with a green tax, considering how un-environmentally friendly they are. The do more damage than a Range Rover

Greener than flying off around the world.

[Martin_1962]

Sales of generators may increase 

& ear defenders

Oh, joy!  I'vejust bought a new tent as well.

What's wrong with a 12v battery?

Kevin

What's wrong with a Hotel, not getting infront of everyone & holding them up

I bet quite a few of us would NOT hold you up!

[Martin_1962]

Sales of generators may increase 

& ear defenders

Oh, joy!  I'vejust bought a new tent as well.

What's wrong with a 12v battery?

Kevin

What's wrong with a Hotel, not getting infront of everyone & holding them up

I think caravans should be slapped with a green tax, considering how un-environmentally friendly they are. The do more damage than a Range Rover

But still greener than a fight I'm not biting on that one

I think all Caravans should be destroyed, TB is absolutely right in what he says about them......

Creep!

[Lazydocker]

Sales of generators may increase 

& ear defenders

Oh, joy!  I'vejust bought a new tent as well.

What's wrong with a 12v battery?

Kevin

What's wrong with a Hotel, not getting infront of everyone & holding them up

I think caravans should be slapped with a green tax, considering how un-environmentally friendly they are. The do more damage than a Range Rover

But still greener than a fight I'm not biting on that one

I think all Caravans should be destroyed, TB is absolutely right in what he says about them......

Creep!

Seconded!

Take it from me Mike... Creeping doesn't work

[Marks DTM Calib]

Buy an isolating transformer and get it certified and PAT tested...then connect the pikey wagon to the output....

Much cheaper and your then not connected to the grid

And we pay fixed amount anyway

Ehh?

Its meant as a sudgestion as to how to get around the legislation