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[Martin_1962]

Buy an isolating transformer and get it certified and PAT tested...then connect the pikey wagon to the output....

Much cheaper and your then not connected to the grid

And we pay fixed amount anyway

Ehh?

Its meant as a sudgestion as to how to get around the legislation

No - we just pay £1 or similar for the hookup, doesn't matter if you are just running lights or smelting aluminium

[Lazydocker]

Buy an isolating transformer and get it certified and PAT tested...then connect the pikey wagon to the output....

Much cheaper and your then not connected to the grid

And we pay fixed amount anyway

Ehh?

Its meant as a sudgestion as to how to get around the legislation

No - we just pay £1 or similar for the hookup, doesn't matter if you are just running lights or smelting aluminium

I think you're off on a tangent there Martin... Suggestion was to get a PAT tested transformer, then there is no need to have the 'vans electrics tested

[Martin_1962]

Buy an isolating transformer and get it certified and PAT tested...then connect the pikey wagon to the output....

Much cheaper and your then not connected to the grid

And we pay fixed amount anyway

Ehh?

Its meant as a sudgestion as to how to get around the legislation

No - we just pay £1 or similar for the hookup, doesn't matter if you are just running lights or smelting aluminium

I think you're off on a tangent there Martin... Suggestion was to get a PAT tested transformer, then there is no need to have the 'vans electrics tested

I know - but just making the point it makes no difference to what we pay the site.

[Lazydocker]

Buy an isolating transformer and get it certified and PAT tested...then connect the pikey wagon to the output....

Much cheaper and your then not connected to the grid

And we pay fixed amount anyway

Ehh?

Its meant as a sudgestion as to how to get around the legislation

No - we just pay £1 or similar for the hookup, doesn't matter if you are just running lights or smelting aluminium

I think you're off on a tangent there Martin... Suggestion was to get a PAT tested transformer, then there is no need to have the 'vans electrics tested

I know - but just making the point it makes no difference to what we pay the site.

Makes a huge difference to the testing costs though

[Martin_1962]

Buy an isolating transformer and get it certified and PAT tested...then connect the pikey wagon to the output....

Much cheaper and your then not connected to the grid

And we pay fixed amount anyway

Ehh?

Its meant as a sudgestion as to how to get around the legislation

No - we just pay £1 or similar for the hookup, doesn't matter if you are just running lights or smelting aluminium

I think you're off on a tangent there Martin... Suggestion was to get a PAT tested transformer, then there is no need to have the 'vans electrics tested

I know - but just making the point it makes no difference to what we pay the site.

Makes a huge difference to the testing costs though

I'll put one on my shopping list

[Kevin Wood]

No - we just pay £1 or similar for the hookup, doesn't matter if you are just running lights or smelting aluminium

There's an idea for the next meet. 

I fully expect to find a single "approved" wagon on the site with extension leads chained from it round to all of the "non approved" ones.

It's the normal way when you introduce too much red tape. People find less safe ways to circumvent it.

Kevin

[Lazydocker]

No - we just pay £1 or similar for the hookup, doesn't matter if you are just running lights or smelting aluminium

There's an idea for the next meet. 

I fully expect to find a single "approved" wagon on the site with extension leads chained from it round to all of the "non approved" ones.

It's the normal way when you introduce too much red tape. People find less safe ways to circumvent it.

Kevin

Seem to recall some of the members having a go at smelting chimneas at Newent

[waspy]

No - we just pay £1 or similar for the hookup, doesn't matter if you are just running lights or smelting aluminium

What are Caravans made from

[Amigo]

Nearby hotel? Warm & comfy but not for me. I'd rather be at said meet day & night. I'd feel uncomfortable having to leave at night by a certain time then get back next morning only to wander about with no means of making a brew, food, shelter in the event of a shower etc. I know fellow members will help out with said issues but it's nice to be independant. If nothing else in a van or a tent you have a bolthole if you want an hour or two to yourself or forty winks as i often do.
12v battery? Good idea but you'd have to keep charging it up so if tenting may as well pay hook up & run a 4 way socket.
As for the tent/caravan debate i've never "tented" properly. ie bought a big enough tent with all the relevant equipment to do the job properly but have seen others do so, so accept home comforts can be replicated under canvas.
   I'm new to caravanning & only run a small 2 berth Elddis that i only use for OOF & classic car meets so i'm not a "vanner" as such. That said i love spending time away in it. I've got 12/240 leccy, gas or leccy kettle, toaster, hot & cold running water, Kenwood cd/radio, freeview telly, 3 ring burner, oven/grille, fridge with tiny freezer, shower, cassette toilet (can't bring myself to use it...but in emergencies?) i don't have to put it up or pack it away. Tins of beans/soup, crockery, cutlery can all stay til next time, no messing about.
   To sum up it seems a shame such a simple hobby is going to fall foul of yet another pointless set of rules & regs. I check the van over before setting off & keep an eye on things in general. The wheelbearings/brakes are ok, as are tyre pressures, no perished walls inside or out & i carry 2 spares. Replaced gas pipes including new unions to run 2 bottles with new regulaters & all lights work. Even i can manage this & i'm no mechanic.
    Can't these irritating so & so's go away & get a proper job? It'll be tents next if it carries on. You'll all have to attend some course & gain a certificate just to put the thing up & sleep in it, let alone make a coffee & egg on toast. Leave us alone & find something more constructive to do FFS!

[Entwood]

Slowly finding out more about this .... 


The NCC write up ...

http://www.nationalcaravan.co.uk/images/resources/TB-2009-017%20PIR%20Testing.pdf

CITO write up

http://www.cito.org.uk/attachments/071_EWS%20Info%20Pack.pdf


and the more I read the more it smells ...

[Lazydocker]

Nearby hotel? Warm & comfy but not for me. I'd rather be at said meet day & night. I'd feel uncomfortable having to leave at night by a certain time then get back next morning only to wander about with no means of making a brew, food, shelter in the event of a shower etc. I know fellow members will help out with said issues but it's nice to be independant. If nothing else in a van or a tent you have a bolthole if you want an hour or two to yourself or forty winks as i often do.
12v battery? Good idea but you'd have to keep charging it up so if tenting may as well pay hook up & run a 4 way socket.
As for the tent/caravan debate i've never "tented" properly. ie bought a big enough tent with all the relevant equipment to do the job properly but have seen others do so, so accept home comforts can be replicated under canvas.
   I'm new to caravanning & only run a small 2 berth Elddis that i only use for OOF & classic car meets so i'm not a "vanner" as such. That said i love spending time away in it. I've got 12/240 leccy, gas or leccy kettle, toaster, hot & cold running water, Kenwood cd/radio, freeview telly, 3 ring burner, oven/grille, fridge with tiny freezer, shower, cassette toilet (can't bring myself to use it...but in emergencies?) i don't have to put it up or pack it away. Tins of beans/soup, crockery, cutlery can all stay til next time, no messing about.
   To sum up it seems a shame such a simple hobby is going to fall foul of yet another pointless set of rules & regs. I check the van over before setting off & keep an eye on things in general. The wheelbearings/brakes are ok, as are tyre pressures, no perished walls inside or out & i carry 2 spares. Replaced gas pipes including new unions to run 2 bottles with new regulaters & all lights work. Even i can manage this & i'm no mechanic.
    Can't these irritating so & so's go away & get a proper job? It'll be tents next if it carries on. You'll all have to attend some course & gain a certificate just to put the thing up & sleep in it, let alone make a coffee & egg on toast. Leave us alone & find something more constructive to do FFS!

As long as you remember to let the handbrake off

[Lazydocker]

Quoted from your first link:

To recommend when the next periodic inspection and test is due for installations in Caravans, the engineer will also need to take into account the use of the Caravan, and the mileage covered for a Touring Caravan or Motorhome: this will then be reviewed at that time. This period will be not less than 3 years and in some cases could be 1 year.

They want to make up their mind

[Kevin Wood]

No - we just pay £1 or similar for the hookup, doesn't matter if you are just running lights or smelting aluminium

What are Caravans made from

Someone's on my wavelength.  Just need a way to convert them to Bauxite before they can technically be smelted. I wonder if TheBoy has any ideas on that one?

Kevin

[Amigo]

No - we just pay £1 or similar for the hookup, doesn't matter if you are just running lights or smelting aluminium

What are Caravans made from

Someone's on my wavelength.  Just need a way to convert them to Bauxite before they can technically be smelted. I wonder if TheBoy has any ideas on that one?

Kevin

Is it caravans or caravanners you lot don't like? I can keep a steady 60 or 70 mph given the car's longer & heavier than the van so no trailer sway. How much did you pay for your piece of cloth, fridge, gas rings, bed, wardrobe, etc. etc.? In other words all your camping gear. I'll bet it was more than £200 & you still have to crawl about unless your bit of cloth is so huge it takes an army to put up/pull down. I hate canvas as much as some of you hate caravans so can you all shut up now please? It's not just a bit of light hearted banter, it's becoming tedious. Until now i hav'nt said a word against tenters so to the minority of you that keep taking a cheap pop i suggest you button it, stop being so rather' smug.
   Let's accept we have different ways of "staying out" I hav'nt noticed caravan owners taking a pop at tenters....yet....but if you keep on.....

[Kevin Wood]

Just different ways of achieving a common aim, Guy. I think the cameraderie at our meets, regardless of where you choose to rest your head, speaks for itself in terms of whether there's any real dislike there. 

I shall say no more on the matter.

Kevin