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Is this true, came from an educational base!
« on: 23 February 2010, 23:02:41 »

Thought I had seen this before?? have not tried to ring it ::) ::) What do you think??

Dear Colleagues, this was passed onto me from a colleague at work.  I was=very surprised to read it and felt compelled to forward it on to you so =hat you may decide if you want to pass it on further.  It could save som=one's life!

112

I know you don't all live in Dorset but a mobile is a mobile where ever y=u live.  I didn't know about 112 did you?

A bit of useful advice - verified by the Dorset Police.
The number does work from a mobile.

This actually happened to someone's daughter. Lauren was 19 yrs old and i= college.
This story takes place over the Christmas/New Year's holiday break.

It was the Saturday before New Year and it was about 1.00pm in the aftern=on, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend, when an UNMARKED police ca= pulled up behind her and put its lights on. Lauren's parents have 4 chi=dren (of various ages) and have always told them never to pull over for =n unmarked car on the side of the road, but rather wait until they get t= a service station, etc.
So Lauren remembered her parents' advice, and telephoned 112 from her mob=le phone.
This connected her to the police dispatcher she told the dispatcher that =here was an unmarked police car with a flashing blue light on his roofto= behind her and that she would not pull over right away but wait until s=e was in a service station or busy area.
The dispatcher checked to see if there was a police car where she was and=there wasn't and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he ha= back-up already on the way.
Ten minutes later 4 police cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behin= her.
One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind.
They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground........the=man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes.
I never knew that bit of advice, but especially for a woman alone in a ca=, you do not have to pull over for an UNMARKED car.
Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a 'safe' pl=ce.
You obviously need to make some signals that you acknowledge them I.e., p=t on your hazard lights) or call 112 like Lauren did.
Too bad the mobile phone companies don't give you this little bit of wond=rful information.
So now it's your turn to let your friends know about 112 (112 is an emerg=ncy number on your mobile that takes you straight to the police because =99 does not work if you have no signal).
This is good information that I did not know!

Please pass on to all your friends, especially any females.

As far as I am aware, 112 uses a system called triangulation so they can =lso pinpoint exactly where you are phoning from.

 

  READ IT THEN PASS IT ON DON'T JUST DELETE - IMPORTANT
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Re: Is this true, came from an educational base!
« Reply #1 on: 23 February 2010, 23:06:39 »

No its rubbish; if there is no signal for 999 how would any other number work?

See here: http://www.snopes.com/science/mobile.asp

and here: http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/fakecop.asp
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Re: Is this true, came from an educational base!
« Reply #2 on: 23 February 2010, 23:11:44 »

Mostly true ....

You don't have to pull over to an unmarked car, or a marked one .. until it is safe to do so ..... but it is a good idea to indicate that you have acknowledged their presence and not to give the impression you are trying to "escape"

All mobiles work the same way, by sending signals to the nearest "mast" as well as "communicating" with adjacent masts so that a "hand over" can occur seamlessly as you move. With the right equipment the mobile operator can pinpoint which mast you are using, and those you are also on "standby" with ...  this allows the phones position to be calculated to quite a high degree of accuracy... and it doesn't matter what number you are talking to .....

If you don't have a signal then this will not occur .... signals are not "number dependent" ... they either exist or don't !!

What is true is that emergency calls can go to ANY provider .. not just the one you pay for... so if you are O2 ... and no O2 signal .. but a vodafone signal is present .. the phone can use that for the emergency call .. but  if there are no signals ..  no call ...  :)
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Re: Is this true, came from an educational base!
« Reply #3 on: 23 February 2010, 23:13:24 »

its rubbish,
if you dial 999 or 112 the phone will latch onto any signal it can and call the emergency services even causing the phone to use more battery power to ensure a signal :y
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Re: Is this true, came from an educational base!
« Reply #4 on: 23 February 2010, 23:25:14 »

Do the UK police use the term "dispatcher"?  Does anywhere in the US use 999 as an emergency number.

And, obviously, if there's no signal, you aren't going to be connected whatever number you dial. 

What you will find, though, is that 112, 999 and some other codes I can't remember will work on most mobile phones even when the keypad is locked.  This means you can use any phone you can find in an emergency.
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Re: Is this true, came from an educational base!
« Reply #5 on: 23 February 2010, 23:31:40 »

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No its rubbish; if there is no signal for 999 how would any other number work?

See here: http://www.snopes.com/science/mobile.asp

and here: http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/fakecop.asp
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I have emailed this link to swmbo at work, she will get it tomorrow, I told her it was not correct, I had a 'brave moment'  :D though the number is OK
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« Reply #6 on: 24 February 2010, 09:49:01 »

112 and 999 both do the same thing. Nothing special about 112.

In both cases the mobile can use other networks than the one you are subscribed to to make the emergency call. This is why some mobiles display "emergency calls only" when you are out of coverage.

You can also make an emergency call without a SIM in the mobile.

There is a requirement called E911 in the US that determines that mobile operators must be able to locate the source of an emergency call within 6 minutes to an accuracy of 300 metres. Triangulation between base sites (a technique called E-OTD) was proposed as a means of achieving this but it can't under most circumstances and we're certainly not seeing any interest in it in europe. Integrated GPS in then mobile phone can do much better if there is a clear view of the sky.

Not sure if any kind of E911-like service is in use in the UK.  :-/

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« Reply #7 on: 24 February 2010, 10:39:12 »

And of course you're expected to pull over, stop the engine and take the key out of the ignition before making the call!
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Re: Is this true, came from an educational base!
« Reply #8 on: 24 February 2010, 11:24:27 »

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And of course you're expected to pull over, stop the engine and take the key out of the ignition before making the call!



A very important point Chris :y :y
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Re: Is this true, came from an educational base!
« Reply #9 on: 24 February 2010, 11:38:34 »

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112 and 999 both do the same thing. Nothing special about 112.
In both cases the mobile can use other networks than the one you are subscribed to to make the emergency call. This is why some mobiles display "emergency calls only" when you are out of coverage.

You can also make an emergency call without a SIM in the mobile.

There is a requirement called E911 in the US that determines that mobile operators must be able to locate the source of an emergency call within 6 minutes to an accuracy of 300 metres. Triangulation between base sites (a technique called E-OTD) was proposed as a means of achieving this but it can't under most circumstances and we're certainly not seeing any interest in it in europe. Integrated GPS in then mobile phone can do much better if there is a clear view of the sky.

Not sure if any kind of E911-like service is in use in the UK.  :-/

Kevin

112 is the number used in other countries.

If I remember correctly, the Uk used 99(9) as it was less easy for it to be "tapped out" accidently on say an overhead fault. Of course that was in the olden days.
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Re: Is this true, came from an educational base!
« Reply #10 on: 24 February 2010, 11:50:25 »

101 is UK no so emergency, emergency, whatever that means but its the alternative to 999.
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Re: Is this true, came from an educational base!
« Reply #11 on: 24 February 2010, 14:27:42 »

999 came from the original "twist dial" phones .. it was desgined that if you could not see the dial you could feel for the finger stop, go to the second hole up (bottom hole was 0 ) and just pull down 3 times...

nothing more sinister than that ... and very easy to remember and do...  :)
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