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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #15 on: 02 March 2010, 22:36:33 »
Sounds like its time for you to move on, learning wise....   ;)

Check if your local force has something similar....

http://www.fife.police.uk/Default.aspx?page=2834
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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #16 on: 02 March 2010, 22:38:16 »
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Sounds like its time for you to move on, learning wise....   ;)

Check if your local force has something similar....

http://www.fife.police.uk/Default.aspx?page=2834

But they might stop advise him to stop riding at *00 mph+ and doing Donuts.  ::) ;D ;D
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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #17 on: 02 March 2010, 22:38:34 »
But as its linked, when i pull on the front, it brakes the rear too, so i don't know if me using the rear brake as well makes things worse  :-/
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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #18 on: 02 March 2010, 22:39:34 »
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Sounds like its time for you to move on, learning wise....   ;)

Check if your local force has something similar....

http://www.fife.police.uk/Default.aspx?page=2834

But they might stop advise him to stop riding at *00 mph+ and doing Donuts.  ::) ;D ;D

Warickshire do one, at a bargain of £30, must book one  :y
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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #19 on: 02 March 2010, 22:39:54 »
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But as its linked, when i pull on the front, it brakes the rear too, so i don't know if me using the rear brake as well makes things worse  :-/

How can it be worse, yank the brakes on , you have ABS dont you.
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« Reply #20 on: 02 March 2010, 22:43:07 »
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But as its linked, when i pull on the front, it brakes the rear too, so i don't know if me using the rear brake as well makes things worse  :-/

How can it be worse, yank the brakes on , you have ABS dont you.

ABS System is 'supposed' to work out how much to apply to the rear (oooo errr  ;D)
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« Reply #21 on: 02 March 2010, 22:43:43 »
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But as its linked, when i pull on the front, it brakes the rear too, so i don't know if me using the rear brake as well makes things worse  :-/

The Pans I rode also had linked brakes.

I still used the front first/most (why did Honda put two mahoosive discs there and not a giant one at the back?) and used the rear as well.  If you use too much rear, it will lock/ABS but, if you already have a large handfull of front, it will make no appreciable difference.

As said, time for a move from learner lessons to advanced lessons.  Its not just braking but road positioning, anticipation, cornering techniques and reading the road amongst others.

Done the bikesafe thing for quite a few years and its amazing how many mental light switches get switched on in riders eyes, just by a (free to them) Saturday or Sunday powerpoint and ride out with the Polis...   ;)
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« Reply #22 on: 02 March 2010, 22:46:28 »
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But as its linked, when i pull on the front, it brakes the rear too, so i don't know if me using the rear brake as well makes things worse  :-/

How can it be worse, yank the brakes on , you have ABS dont you.

ABS System is 'supposed' to work out how much to apply to the rear (oooo errr  ;D)

As H21 says, why do bikes have 2 massives disks upfront and a smaller rear disk, think they must all have an idea of what they are building after all these years.
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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #23 on: 02 March 2010, 22:48:54 »
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But as its linked, when i pull on the front, it brakes the rear too, so i don't know if me using the rear brake as well makes things worse  :-/

The Pans I rode also had linked brakes.

I still used the front first/most (why did Honda put two mahoosive discs there and not a giant one at the back?) and used the rear as well.  If you use too much rear, it will lock/ABS but, if you already have a large handfull of front, it will make no appreciable difference.

As said, time for a move from learner lessons to advanced lessons.  Its not just braking but road positioning, anticipation, cornering techniques and reading the road amongst others.

Done the bikesafe thing for quite a few years and its amazing how many mental light switches get switched on in riders eyes, just by a (free to them) Saturday or Sunday powerpoint and ride out with the Polis...   ;)


Should be compulsory.  12 months after passing test and before moving to a bike of greater than a specified power/weight ratio. CC means nothing these days.
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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #24 on: 02 March 2010, 22:48:59 »
splash the cash, and learn lots.......  Motorcycle Roadcraft.

Boring tosh to some, saving limbs and lives to others.    :y

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=motorcycle+roadcraft&tag=googhydr-21&index=stripbooks&hvadid=4129780063&ref=pd_sl_8a98ctxdts_b

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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #25 on: 02 March 2010, 22:49:18 »
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But as its linked, when i pull on the front, it brakes the rear too, so i don't know if me using the rear brake as well makes things worse  :-/

The Pans I rode also had linked brakes.

I still used the front first/most (why did Honda put two mahoosive discs there and not a giant one at the back?) and used the rear as well.  If you use too much rear, it will lock/ABS but, if you already have a large handfull of front, it will make no appreciable difference.

As said, time for a move from learner lessons to advanced lessons.  Its not just braking but road positioning, anticipation, cornering techniques and reading the road amongst others.

Done the bikesafe thing for quite a few years and its amazing how many mental light switches get switched on in riders eyes, just by a (free to them) Saturday or Sunday powerpoint and ride out with the Polis...   ;)

Thanks, must get one of those courses booked up  :y
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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #26 on: 02 March 2010, 22:53:08 »
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Only just realised the beemer has linked brakes  :-[

I have been riding how i was taught, so approaching junctions at say 70, i click down through the gears, using engine braking (which the boxer engine gives lots of)

I brake with rear brake first, slowly increasing pressure to back brake, then last, pull on the front, lightly at first, then more firm, depending on speed. (sometimes i hardly touch it)

According to manual, when you pull the front brake, both are applied. The ABS system works out how much to send to front rear, with normal conditions giving most to the rear (as i under stand it)

Should i switch styles? Only use front brake?  :-/
:o Who on earth told you to do that ? 
Front first  :y
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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #27 on: 02 March 2010, 22:56:06 »
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splash the cash, and learn lots.......  Motorcycle Roadcraft.

Boring tosh to some, saving limbs and lives to others.    :y

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=motorcycle+roadcraft&tag=googhydr-21&index=stripbooks&hvadid=4129780063&ref=pd_sl_8a98ctxdts_b


Thank you for your order.
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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #28 on: 02 March 2010, 22:56:49 »
Had linked brakes on a Guzzi T3 and they were brilliant, the foot brake worked the rear disk and one front disk, the handlebar lever worked the other front disk. The linked system is very stable and used for moderate speed reduction, adding in more front brake when a hard stop is needed.
On the Matchless at normal road speeds and approaching a roundabout I sit up as tall as possible into the air flow and haul the front brake lever right back to the handle bar. All body weight is transferred to the rear brake lever whilst the right foot is down shifting as fast as possible. Eyes and brain are working at max speed to plot an escape route and selecting the softest looking kerb/crash barrier/lorry in case some muppet pulls into my 200yd stopping distance.
Why would you want abs? it takes all the fun out of riding a real bike.
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Re: Linked Brakes
« Reply #29 on: 02 March 2010, 22:58:53 »
Good man....   ;)

ps - Warwickshire are robbin bandits.  Us Jocks do the course for free.  And we supply the coffee and biccies!   ;D
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