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[Entwood]

You don't have to know "who" it belongs to .. it didn't belong to him .. so he had no right to take it...

It belonged to "someone else" - matters not who - and by taking it a deliberate act of depriving the owner occured. The true owner may have come back 10, 20, 40, 200 whatever minutes later to collect it.

[KW]

But he didnt know who it belonged to as it had been abandoned. 

I don't know who owns the abandoned 4x4 just up the road from us that hasn't moved in months, has no tax, etc...does that mean I can just go and take it?

The law is quite clear S, if it isn't your's and you take it with the intention of keeping it then it's theft.

[Vamps]

youve took it home.i would just keep it,whats done is done,  save your petrol,you probally wouldnt get any thanks anyway

The Makem way.............

[Turk]

But who did it belong to.

if he took it back to the store and handed it in, they would put it back on the shelf and resell it.

That is a guess..

They might also have used the computerised shop system to see how many had been sold that day, and if any were on credit card used that facility to track the purchaser ..

Another guess I agree ... but the act of waiting to see if "someone" returned to claim the article shows that the "taker" knew it did not belong to him. So it is theft. ... IMHO

but then you have the finders keepers theory.  Plus had he have taken it back, a staff member could have thanked him, done a fefund (even with out the recipt) and just pocketed the cash (especially if they knew it was a cash purchase.

    I can't see that one having much chance in a court of law.

[Entwood]

youve took it home.i would just keep it,whats done is done,  save your petrol,you probally wouldnt get any thanks anyway

And just hope you are not on CCTV when the true owner returns to collect it and reports the theft to the police ?? Who look at the CCTV records and watch you wait to steal it ... 

Not the best defence to say "I waited 15 minutes in case they came back before I nicked it" ...

[charlie]

The makem way, would be to take it back in the shop,put something on it, then take it back to the car

[Mr Skrunts]

You don't have to know "who" it belongs to .. it didn't belong to him .. so he had no right to take it...

It belonged to "someone else" - matters not who - and by taking it a deliberate act of depriving the owner occured. The true owner may have come back 10, 20, 40, 200 whatever minutes later to collect it.

Well the lesson to be learnt then, leave a note before you put it in your car.   

[Mr Skrunts]

But he didnt know who it belonged to as it had been abandoned. 

I don't know who owns the abandoned 4x4 just up the road from us that hasn't moved in months, has no tax, etc...does that mean I can just go and take it?

The law is quite clear S, if it isn't your's and you take it with the intention of keeping it then it's theft.

Vechicles are taxes, tested and insured by the reg plate, therefore trackable.

Vechicle body has a vin tag and tracable.

Unless the sack barrow has a vin tag , serial number or registration plate then there is no way you could prove it has been stolen unless the purchaser and the person taking it home are both revorded via CCTV. 

You know full well if it was handed back the store will deny all knowledge.

[Mr Skrunts]

youve took it home.i would just keep it,whats done is done,  save your petrol,you probally wouldnt get any thanks anyway

And just hope you are not on CCTV when the true owner returns to collect it and reports the theft to the police ?? Who look at the CCTV records and watch you wait to steal it ... 

Not the best defence to say "I waited 15 minutes in case they came back before I nicked it" ...

PMSL, it was littering the place up, so he picked it up and removed as there were ni bins. 

[Vamps]

The makem way, would be to take it back in the shop,put something on it, then take it back to the car

Sounds like we are related via swmbo....

[KW]

But he didnt know who it belonged to as it had been abandoned. 

I don't know who owns the abandoned 4x4 just up the road from us that hasn't moved in months, has no tax, etc...does that mean I can just go and take it?

The law is quite clear S, if it isn't your's and you take it with the intention of keeping it then it's theft.

Vechicles are taxes, tested and insured by the reg plate, therefore trackable.

Vechicle body has a vin tag and tracable.

Unless the sack barrow has a vin tag , serial number or registration plate then there is no way you could prove it has been stolen unless the purchaser and the person taking it home are both revorded via CCTV. 

You know full well if it was handed back the store will deny all knowledge.

So because there was a possibility the store wouldn't play with a straight bat, that means it's OK to take it instead knowing full well it isn't yours?

[charlie]

THE other half wouldn't happen to be from gods land

[Turk]

Definition of 'Theft'.
1) A criminal act in which property belonging to another is taken without that person's consent

2) The act of stealing; specifically: the taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it

3) An unlawful taking (as by embezzlement or burglary) of property

Need any more definitions ?

[Mr Skrunts]

In Rotherham they would nick the sack barrow to nick some heavy and abandon the sack berrow.

So it could have been abandoned.   

[Vamps]

THE other half wouldn't happen to be from gods land

Oh yes......., and her boy's, my stepsons even support Sunderland football team, as does little miss Vamps...... Great for a 'wind up' as I have no interest.......