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[Nickbat]

I think this thread needs locking. All that needed to be  said was said last night.

The thread was left overnight on a lightish note.

Today, though, it seems to gone downhill rapidly and it has got too personal.

Lock it! 

Please!

[Chris_H]

PMSL, sorry James, this is not intended at you, but every single one of you that has replied in this thread.






Have you ever broken the speed limit.

If so, tuck your heads in.

[size=18]Breaking the law is Breaking the law.

No if's or but's, breaking the law is an offence.

So cut the high MORAL standard's

AND ACCEPT YOU ARE ALL LAW BREAKERS.

SIMPLE AS - SO DONT START.

  [/size]

[/b]

That is an absolutely atrocious line of argument.

You're basically saying you can't state something is wrong if you've ever done something wrong in your own life.
Talk about slippery slopes!!!

[Sixstring]

Totally agree, not a personal attack, just an example, could have been a barrow, they would have still done the same thing to identify the person, and the result would have been similar. Not passing judgement for a minute, but I am a Technical Manager for a major Security and surveillance company, so I speak with some knowledge here.

[JamesV6CDX]

James   you are so far up your own arse you must stink of shit

My posts were not of an offensive nature though - can't say the same about your statement!

I perhaps made an error of judgement  in lifting something from a car park a good distance away from a shop that was pulling its shutters down,  that i can see now.

I'd say it was a pre-meditated criminal theft, rather than an error of judgement.

 I didnt think i deserved the personal comments from you  more so i think your comments say more about you than  my post says about me.

I disagree. You asked a question - therefore by nature of this, you should expect replies. I emphasise again, my comments were not rude or offensive (like yours) - simply an opinion, which I am allowed to express on the forum.

bragging about "stealing " a sack barrow on an internet forum  WTF have you been sniffing? 

Sorry, mate, but I interpreted your post that you were quite happy with your actions. You also seemed to glorify nicking £200 from a cash machine. So my comment still stands.

 I did not brag about anything its a sack barrow.

Doesn't matter what it was - you still openly posted on the net that you stole it.

get off your high horse  wind you neck back in and stop being mr hobby bobby on here save it for the weekends.

Nope, I won't wind my neck in - I will continue to express my opinions regarding your criminal activities, for as long as you continue to post about them.

 I asked the question becuase i didnt know the answer.

Yet you were still happy to take the item regardless?

 now why dont you do best and  spit the dummy press the delete button and get lost mr high and mighty

Naaahh..... my skin is considerably thicker than it used to be - I intend to stay firmly put

your comments would have had more value without the attack on me

I apologise if you see it as an attack - but, based on your original admissions that you dishonestly took £200 from a cash machine, and then nicked something from the DIY store carpark that wasn't yours, my opinion of you remains the same - a Criminal.

[doog]

hmmm   self-righteous

nuff said


Doug

[Sixstring]

GENTLEMEN>>>>>>WITHOUT PREJUDICE

May I respectfully request this may be escalating into a personal attack thread, and may be better conducted via PM or similar, and this thread be locked Mr. Moderator before somebody gets a bit too hot under the collar and forgets this is a public forum which can be read/digested/acted on by anybody??

[JamesV6CDX]

GENTLEMEN>>>>>>WITHOUT PREJUDICE

May I respectfully request this may be escalating into a personal attack thread, and may be better conducted via PM or similar, and this thread be locked Mr. Moderator before somebody gets a bit too hot under the collar and forgets this is a public forum which can be read/digested/acted on by anybody??

Not at all hot under the collar here - opinions have been expressed, and life goes on 

[tunnie]

 

Man posts about nicking something.

Man unhappy when people call him thief.

 

[STMO999]

Having a shouty arguement? Without me? Bastards!

[doog]

Man posts about nicking something.

Man unhappy when people call him thief.

 

not at all
I asked for an opinion which i got many replies last night and took on board what was said  without anyone getting personal.
 no one  felt the need to have a personal attack on me untill today.
having already stated i did make a mistake in lifting it and i accept that  without argument i am big enough to accept that.
most people managed to comment  without  appearing self-richous  as it was clear it was an error of judgement  I didn not go along withthe intentions of stealing anything and never have

[joshwyatt]

Had exactly the same thought Tunnie. James, I think your posts were accurate and informative.
I've studied law, and in the eyes of the law, for an offence to have been commited and a prosecution by the CPS, two criterion must be satisfied...there are exceptions but not relevant to this case;

Mens rea - Did the defendant have a 'guilty mind' at the time, ignorance of the law is no defence. This has been satisfied.

Actus reus - The 'guilty act', in some cases just this is required, but again not in this instance. This has been satisfied, the theft of chattels.

Both criterion have been established, an offence has been commited. What you do about it, is now up to you. You either keep the item or return it.

[alunonhisown]

Why do I feel a knock at the door happening sometime soon?   :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

[Kiksomass]

In the grand scheme of things,nobody has died here.Personally,if it had been my sack barrow and I'd have got home and then realised. I would have cursed myself and shrug my shoulders because that's gone now. If by the remotest chance I thought it maybe still there I may have driven back to see...but it's a sack barrow not a leather sofa or a ming vase.
The funny thing is,if you went back to drop it off at precisely the same spot and walk away somebody would be chasing after you to tell you of your mistake!You couldn't give it away now!

[STMO999]

Why do I feel a knock at the door happening sometime soon?   :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

Turn the red light off then

[tunnie]

Why do I feel a knock at the door happening sometime soon?   :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

Turn the red light off then