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Government.....tax and MOT stupidity
« on: 06 April 2010, 10:49:12 »

So, I am back to my roots again and now run a little hatchback.  Missing the space, but enjoying the 50mpg and Japanese bulletproofness and lack of bonnet opening!

The government has driven me crazy this last week, mind-due to their left hand not talking to the right hand....

MOT-my car was first registered on 26th April 2007 and was needing its first MOT, so I booked it in as suggested during the month before the date as you can get the MOT running from the actual date; so if within a month before 26/04/2010, would still date until 25/04/2011.
Except it doesn't.  After much swearing and having three "definite" different answers of 1 month prior, 28 days prior and 1 month minus a day prior.....the  answer is:
 
You can present the car one month, minus a day before the required date in order to get the MOT to expire 12 months from the date of the previous MOT.

Booked online with Kwik-fit in the end, passed no issues, not bad for 56,000 mile 3 year old car hacked around the lanes and without any prep.


TAX
All the tax bands changed on 1st April and on renewing, this did seem like an April Fool joke.

The governments own site:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_172916

stated my 137g/km car was now in the £110pa band, but my reminder for April renewal was on the old price £120.

I tried numerous times online to sort it, no chance.  Ended up going to Post Office on 1st April and finally getting it for £110.  Some of the cars I owned in the last few years would now be £20pa or £90pa.

I wonder how many people overpaid or underpaid and how much will this cock-up cost to rectify when people realise?

Incidentally, pre-2001 Omegas all now £205pa, I think all post-2001 petrols now £235pa.  Eeek.
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Re: Government.....tax and MOT stupidity
« Reply #1 on: 06 April 2010, 11:22:33 »

I feel for you.  it is becoming increasingly difficult to deal with Government as their systems become unmanageable.

Just after reading your posting, I had to declare that I was not paying myself this month to HMRC.  They have a special web page to let them know and it is quite hard to find.  Long story short, on pressing 'submit' I was treated to a source-code listing on the first five occasions which showed in detail how EDS were trying to email me the results (and strangely, they had IP addresses hard-coded into the program!).  I'm sure I could have made some money out of what they insisted on displaying on my screen!

There is betterworse to come I'm certain. >:(
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Re: Government.....tax and MOT stupidity
« Reply #2 on: 06 April 2010, 13:08:01 »

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I feel for you.  it is becoming increasingly difficult to deal with Government as their systems become unmanageable.

Just after reading your posting, I had to declare that I was not paying myself this month to HMRC.  They have a special web page to let them know and it is quite hard to find.  Long story short, on pressing 'submit' I was treated to a source-code listing on the first five occasions which showed in detail how EDS were trying to email me the results (and strangely, they had IP addresses hard-coded into the program!).  I'm sure I could have made some money out of what they insisted on displaying on my screen!

There is betterworse to come I'm certain. >:(

It was infuriating, trying to follow their advice, then having to rebook the MOT upon arrival (60 mile round trip) and faff for hours to get the correct tax rate.

To top it all off, I have had to try and sort out the mess through my wife, while I have been in hospital.

The cherry on top was my wife then telling me someone has stoved the door of the new car in while she was parked at work and not left their details.  Whole door is screwed (reversed hard into) and I am too ill to sort it.  Bloody people.  Bloody mess.   >:(
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Re: Government.....tax and MOT stupidity
« Reply #3 on: 06 April 2010, 14:07:04 »

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I feel for you.  it is becoming increasingly difficult to deal with Government as their systems become unmanageable.

Just after reading your posting, I had to declare that I was not paying myself this month to HMRC.  They have a special web page to let them know and it is quite hard to find.  Long story short, on pressing 'submit' I was treated to a source-code listing on the first five occasions which showed in detail how EDS were trying to email me the results (and strangely, they had IP addresses hard-coded into the program!).  I'm sure I could have made some money out of what they insisted on displaying on my screen!

There is betterworse to come I'm certain. >:(

It was infuriating, trying to follow their advice, then having to rebook the MOT upon arrival (60 mile round trip) and faff for hours to get the correct tax rate.

To top it all off, I have had to try and sort out the mess through my wife, while I have been in hospital.

The cherry on top was my wife then telling me someone has stoved the door of the new car in while she was parked at work and not left their details.  Whole door is screwed (reversed hard into) and I am too ill to sort it.  Bloody people.  Bloody mess.   >:(
I won't cheer your day with any more examples of bureaucratic stupidity then!

Had a couple of the drive-intos, one where my wife was on a hospital visit and saw it happen.  She got vitriolic verbals off the perpetrator and no money despite convincing evidence.

I suggest you try to create some mind control for yourself in order to preserve your sanity.  Find some nice things to brood on and get better soon. :y
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Re: Government.....tax and MOT stupidity
« Reply #4 on: 06 April 2010, 14:13:07 »

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I feel for you.  it is becoming increasingly difficult to deal with Government as their systems become unmanageable.

Just after reading your posting, I had to declare that I was not paying myself this month to HMRC.  They have a special web page to let them know and it is quite hard to find.  Long story short, on pressing 'submit' I was treated to a source-code listing on the first five occasions which showed in detail how EDS were trying to email me the results (and strangely, they had IP addresses hard-coded into the program!).  I'm sure I could have made some money out of what they insisted on displaying on my screen!

There is betterworse to come I'm certain. >:(

It was infuriating, trying to follow their advice, then having to rebook the MOT upon arrival (60 mile round trip) and faff for hours to get the correct tax rate.

To top it all off, I have had to try and sort out the mess through my wife, while I have been in hospital.

The cherry on top was my wife then telling me someone has stoved the door of the new car in while she was parked at work and not left their details.  Whole door is screwed (reversed hard into) and I am too ill to sort it.  Bloody people.  Bloody mess.   >:(
I won't cheer your day with any more examples of bureaucratic stupidity then!

Had a couple of the drive-intos, one where my wife was on a hospital visit and saw it happen.  She got vitriolic verbals off the perpetrator and no money despite convincing evidence.

I suggest you try to create some mind control for yourself in order to preserve your sanity.  Find some nice things to brood on and get better soon. :y

"Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens..........!"
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Re: Government.....tax and MOT stupidity
« Reply #5 on: 06 April 2010, 17:12:00 »

Don't let the B*****s grind you down mate, whoever they are!
Negative thoughts will make you heal slower :(
I've missed your posts, get well soon  :y
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Don't let the B*****s grind you down mate, whoever they are!
Negative thoughts will make you heal slower :(
I've missed your posts, get well soon  :y

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Re: Government.....tax and MOT stupidity
« Reply #7 on: 06 April 2010, 18:57:34 »

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Incidentally, pre-2001 Omegas all now £205pa, I think all post-2001 petrols now £235pa.  Eeek.

As you said ...

Pre 2001 Omegas (ALL) will be £205.00
Post will be :-

J band   = 186-200 CO2 (g/km)  £235 (So Dti's)
K* band = 201-225 CO2 (g/km)  £245 (Petrol Gas Guzzlers)

*Band K includes cars that have a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006.
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Re: Government.....tax and MOT stupidity
« Reply #8 on: 06 April 2010, 19:39:50 »

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Incidentally, pre-2001 Omegas all now £205pa, I think all post-2001 petrols now £235pa.  Eeek.

As you said ...

Pre 2001 Omegas (ALL) will be £205.00
Post will be :-

J band   = 186-200 CO2 (g/km)  £235 (So Dti's)
K* band = 201-225 CO2 (g/km)  £245 (Petrol Gas Guzzlers)

*Band K includes cars that have a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006.

Eeek +£10  ;D

Eeeeeeeeeek!
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Re: Government.....tax and MOT stupidity
« Reply #9 on: 06 April 2010, 19:51:10 »

but if you are LPG (dual fuel) you get it really, really cheap ..

K*   201-225   £235.00

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524


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« Reply #10 on: 06 April 2010, 19:52:28 »

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but if you are LPG (dual fuel) you get it really, really cheap ..

K*   201-225   £235.00

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524


:)

A-ha.  Eeek.
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« Reply #11 on: 06 April 2010, 19:59:50 »

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but if you are LPG (dual fuel) you get it really, really cheap ..

K*   201-225   £235.00

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524


:)

A-ha.  Eeek.

Is it just me, or £20 per month to tax your car a bit rich??
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Re: Government.....tax and MOT stupidity
« Reply #12 on: 06 April 2010, 21:56:30 »

I tax on my old 3.0l senny A(1986) for a year was £190 before 1 fools day(april)
my work mates rav 4 2.0l diesel was £210 for a year :o
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« Reply #13 on: 06 April 2010, 22:06:46 »

Should have stuck with your Omega mate  ;D


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