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Nickbat

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That sinking feeling...
« on: 13 April 2010, 17:33:27 »

"Wind turbines around the UK are sinking into the sea because their foundations are suffering from subsidence"

 ;) ;D ;D ;D

Don't worry, it'll only take £50m to fix 'em... ::) ::)

http://www.yachtingmonthly.com/news/450388/turbines-sinking-fear
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Re: That sinking feeling...
« Reply #1 on: 13 April 2010, 18:17:42 »

Wave power kills wind power.
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« Reply #2 on: 14 April 2010, 01:02:07 »

they're not sinking Nick, it's the sea level rising  ;)  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: That sinking feeling...
« Reply #3 on: 14 April 2010, 09:13:18 »

some piece of metal to increase their height wont cost 50m £ pound..  :-/
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« Reply #4 on: 14 April 2010, 09:52:30 »

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some piece of metal to increase their height wont cost 50m £ pound..  :-/

I have passed your quotation on to HM Government and you start next Tuesday. Please bring a welding torch and 368 lengths of 10m steel.

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« Reply #5 on: 14 April 2010, 13:14:12 »

Perfectly good technology poorly installed.

Will anyone get sacked. NO.

Who will pay? The contractor NO. The same happened with the M69 when it was "worn out" shortly after being built.

The answer will no doubt be the British taxpayer.
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« Reply #6 on: 14 April 2010, 13:45:04 »

No doubt another example of the Government putting it out to tender, getting a variety of quotes and giving the job to the pikey in the grubby hi-vis jacket with a "Motorway Maintenance" transit pickup because he could be persuaded to undercut everyone else.  ;D

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« Reply #7 on: 14 April 2010, 15:03:25 »

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some piece of metal to increase their height wont cost 50m £ pound..  :-/

I have passed your quotation on to HM Government and you start next Tuesday. Please bring a welding torch and 368 lengths of 10m steel.

 ;) ;D
im sure Dr Pachauri will give you a good deal from his steel company in india. ;)
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« Reply #8 on: 14 April 2010, 15:28:47 »

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some piece of metal to increase their height wont cost 50m £ pound..  :-/

I have passed your quotation on to HM Government and you start next Tuesday. Please bring a welding torch and 368 lengths of 10m steel.

 ;) ;D

seriously that job can be done with very minimal costs in my country that you cant imagine.. 8-)

and if thats a job offer,  I will need health insurance ;D ;D

in oil wells we use #1 quality steel for drilling for the equipment and never costs like that.. I'm an engineer (have a degree) in the related field ;D :y
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« Reply #9 on: 14 April 2010, 16:07:05 »

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No doubt another example of the Government putting it out to tender, getting a variety of quotes and giving the job to the pikey in the grubby hi-vis jacket with a "Motorway Maintenance" transit pickup because he could be persuaded to undercut everyone else.  ;D

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you mean a local travaler ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #10 on: 14 April 2010, 16:57:59 »

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No doubt another example of the Government putting it out to tender, getting a variety of quotes and giving the job to the pikey in the grubby hi-vis jacket with a "Motorway Maintenance" transit pickup because he could be persuaded to undercut everyone else.  ;D

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you mean a local travaler ;D ;D ;D

I suppose it's possible he travels... From one wind farm to the next...  ::)

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« Reply #11 on: 14 April 2010, 18:13:27 »

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some piece of metal to increase their height wont cost 50m £ pound..  :-/

I have passed your quotation on to HM Government and you start next Tuesday. Please bring a welding torch and 368 lengths of 10m steel.

 ;) ;D

seriously that job can be done with very minimal costs in my country that you cant imagine.. 8-)

and if thats a job offer,  I will need health insurance ;D ;D

in oil wells we use #1 quality steel for drilling for the equipment and never costs like that.. I'm an engineer (have a degree) in the related field ;D :y


The problem here, Cem (as I understand it), is that the weight of the windmills is causing them to sink, so adding extra metal will have little effect and may, indeed, exacerbate the problem. I would guess (as a layman, not as a civil engineer) the only thing they can do is to sink piles down many, many metres into the seabed, fill them with concrete, and then secure the windmills to these new foundations. All-in-all, I think that would be costly. 

But, as I say, I'm only guessing.  :-/
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cem_devecioglu

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« Reply #12 on: 14 April 2010, 21:30:59 »

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some piece of metal to increase their height wont cost 50m £ pound..  :-/

I have passed your quotation on to HM Government and you start next Tuesday. Please bring a welding torch and 368 lengths of 10m steel.

 ;) ;D

seriously that job can be done with very minimal costs in my country that you cant imagine.. 8-)

and if thats a job offer,  I will need health insurance ;D ;D

in oil wells we use #1 quality steel for drilling for the equipment and never costs like that.. I'm an engineer (have a degree) in the related field ;D :y


The problem here, Cem (as I understand it), is that the weight of the windmills is causing them to sink, so adding extra metal will have little effect and may, indeed, exacerbate the problem. I would guess (as a layman, not as a civil engineer) the only thing they can do is to sink piles down many, many metres into the seabed, fill them with concrete, and then secure the windmills to these new foundations. All-in-all, I think that would be costly. 

But, as I say, I'm only guessing.  :-/

Good and very safe approach Nickbat :y

this technique is used for bridges with a high cost unfortunately..

imo, I wouldnt plan a very long period for those mills..

as the tidal forces and corrosion will anyway effect them.. a simpler solution will be a wider plate surface carrying the top and distributing the weight will be adequate and some added length for the planned life  :y
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: That sinking feeling...
« Reply #13 on: 14 April 2010, 21:33:30 »

but must admit -how you say- sooner rather than later nature will always beat humans engineering.. :-/
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« Reply #14 on: 14 April 2010, 22:01:26 »

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some piece of metal to increase their height wont cost 50m £ pound..  :-/

I have passed your quotation on to HM Government and you start next Tuesday. Please bring a welding torch and 368 lengths of 10m steel.

 ;) ;D

seriously that job can be done with very minimal costs in my country that you cant imagine.. 8-)

and if thats a job offer,  I will need health insurance ;D ;D

in oil wells we use #1 quality steel for drilling for the equipment and never costs like that.. I'm an engineer (have a degree) in the related field ;D :y


The problem here, Cem (as I understand it), is that the weight of the windmills is causing them to sink, so adding extra metal will have little effect and may, indeed, exacerbate the problem. I would guess (as a layman, not as a civil engineer) the only thing they can do is to sink piles down many, many metres into the seabed, fill them with concrete, and then secure the windmills to these new foundations. All-in-all, I think that would be costly. 

But, as I say, I'm only guessing.  :-/

Good and very safe approach Nickbat :y

this technique is used for bridges with a high cost unfortunately..

imo, I wouldnt plan a very long period for those mills..

as the tidal forces and corrosion will anyway effect them.. a simpler solution will be a wider plate surface carrying the top and distributing the weight will be adequate and some added length for the planned life  :y


I bow to your superior knowledge on this one, Cem.  ;) :y
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