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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #30 on: 18 April 2010, 21:09:19 »

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am I the only one who couldn't care less  :-/

Well, I would like my wife back........... running out of clean clothes and dishes  ::)
just turn your boxers or Y fronts round until the back and front is messed,buy a dog to lick plates clean and become a naturist :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #31 on: 18 April 2010, 21:16:26 »

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am I the only one who couldn't care less  :-/

Well, I would like my wife back........... running out of clean clothes and dishes  ::)
just turn your boxers or Y fronts round until the back and front is messed,buy a dog to lick plates clean and become a naturist :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D


Oh myyyyyyyy God!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

That is about the worse thing I have ever seen written on the OOF!! ::) ::) ::)  Typical bloke ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #32 on: 18 April 2010, 21:38:37 »

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am I the only one who couldn't care less  :-/

Well, I would like my wife back........... running out of clean clothes and dishes  ::)
just turn your boxers or Y fronts round until the back and front is messed,buy a dog to lick plates clean and become a naturist :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D


Oh myyyyyyyy God!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

That is about the worse thing I have ever seen written on the OOF!! ::) ::) ::)  Typical bloke ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Sorry lizzie thats the clean version can't write the dirty one  it would read thingy thingy thingy............. ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #33 on: 18 April 2010, 22:31:31 »

I posted this link in the other thread .. but I believe it has some relevance to this discussion ...

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/04/16/340727/pictures-finnish-f-18-engine-check-reveals-effects-of-volcanic.html

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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #34 on: 18 April 2010, 22:56:08 »

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am I the only one who couldn't care less  :-/

Well, I would like my wife back........... running out of clean clothes and dishes  ::)
just turn your boxers or Y fronts round until the back and front is messed,buy a dog to lick plates clean and become a naturist :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D

:-? Is that only done in extreme circumstances then ?!?
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« Reply #35 on: 18 April 2010, 23:01:58 »

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I posted this link in the other thread .. but I believe it has some relevance to this discussion ...

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/04/16/340727/pictures-finnish-f-18-engine-check-reveals-effects-of-volcanic.html

:)

Indeed, no one disputes that volcanic ash can damage engines. The problem is that no one seems to be measuring the amount of ash over our skies now. We do have a plane that could do it, I guess, the Facility for Airborne Atmospheric Measurement aircraft G-LUXE (a converted BAe 146), but it's undergoing heavy maintenance. Talk about bad timing! ::)

TBH, I can see both sides of the argument. Fog, wind, snow etc. have caused more aviation casualties than ash, yet airspace is not closed in these situations. On the other hand, NATs, and others (especially in today's litigious climate) err on the side of caution.

To those who speak of commercial pressure, I don't think any of today's major airlines would risk huge lawsuits by flying in clearly dangerous conditions.

However, when all's said and done, I'm just sitting here spouting my take on all this. I have no responsibility for aircraft, aircrew or pax. There are far better qualified souls than I who are well-paid to take the decisions that need to be taken.

That's why there's a question mark on the thread title!  ;)   
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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #36 on: 18 April 2010, 23:25:07 »

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TBH, I can see both sides of the argument. Fog, wind, snow etc. have caused more aviation casualties than ash, yet airspace is not closed in these situations. On the other hand, NATs, and others (especially in today's litigious climate) err on the side of caution.

Fog, wind and snow are conditions that are relatively localised, predictable and detectable and don't affect aircraft at cruising altitude. This means that affected airports can be closed and flights diverted, but the safety of aircraft doesn't need to be compromised.

This ash problem is a different one entirely.

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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #37 on: 19 April 2010, 00:43:25 »

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distinct smell of Kerosene in my back garden & just seen 2 what look like private jets leave London City Airport

I have an admission to make: I love the smell of Kerosene.  :D :D
in the morning, i hope  :y
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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #38 on: 19 April 2010, 08:52:11 »

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I posted this link in the other thread .. but I believe it has some relevance to this discussion ...

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/04/16/340727/pictures-finnish-f-18-engine-check-reveals-effects-of-volcanic.html

:)

Indeed, no one disputes that volcanic ash can damage engines. The problem is that no one seems to be measuring the amount of ash over our skies now. We do have a plane that could do it, I guess, the Facility for Airborne Atmospheric Measurement aircraft G-LUXE (a converted BAe 146), but it's undergoing heavy maintenance. Talk about bad timing! ::)

TBH, I can see both sides of the argument. Fog, wind, snow etc. have caused more aviation casualties than ash, yet airspace is not closed in these situations. On the other hand, NATs, and others (especially in today's litigious climate) err on the side of caution.

To those who speak of commercial pressure, I don't think any of today's major airlines would risk huge lawsuits by flying in clearly dangerous conditions.

However, when all's said and done, I'm just sitting here spouting my take on all this. I have no responsibility for aircraft, aircrew or pax. There are far better qualified souls than I who are well-paid to take the decisions that need to be taken.

That's why there's a question mark on the thread title!  ;)   

A special plane did go up the other day with all the correct measuring equipment, and the reaction from one of the crew being interviewed was that he would not like to take up a commercial aircraft into what they found ;) ;)
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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #40 on: 19 April 2010, 09:39:42 »

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am I the only one who couldn't care less  :-/

Well, I would like my wife back........... running out of clean clothes and dishes  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

Father tunnie is stuck on Isle of Man, if i had known would have told him to take train this week and i could have had the exhaust flexi off  :(
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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #41 on: 19 April 2010, 09:40:42 »

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Not all bad news then... ;) ;D ;D

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/7605293/Volcanic-ash-cloud-Tony-Blair-stranded-in-Israel.html

They're welcome to him. ;)

The extent of the situation can be seen here.

http://www.flightradar24.com/

Normally that's a recipe for a very cluttered browser window if you point it at the UK. Nothing.

A few flights over the med. but nothing further north.

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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #42 on: 19 April 2010, 09:52:16 »

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am I the only one who couldn't care less  :-/

Well, I would like my wife back........... running out of clean clothes and dishes  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

Father tunnie is stuck on Isle of Man, if i had known would have told him to take train this week and i could have had the exhaust flexi off  :(


How on earth can you stuck on the isle of man ? there are lots of ferries, and my colleague just said he could swim that far  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #43 on: 19 April 2010, 09:58:22 »

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am I the only one who couldn't care less  :-/

Well, I would like my wife back........... running out of clean clothes and dishes  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

Father tunnie is stuck on Isle of Man, if i had known would have told him to take train this week and i could have had the exhaust flexi off  :(
Obviously it requires effort on your part, but you could always drive up and get his car, and do the work whilst the poor man is stuck away from home/family ;)
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Re: Should the air restrictions be lifted?
« Reply #44 on: 19 April 2010, 09:58:31 »

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am I the only one who couldn't care less  :-/

Well, I would like my wife back........... running out of clean clothes and dishes  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

Father tunnie is stuck on Isle of Man, if i had known would have told him to take train this week and i could have had the exhaust flexi off  :(


How on earth can you stuck on the isle of man ? there are lots of ferries, and my colleague just said he could swim that far  ;D ;D ;D

Well he could get back if he really wanted to, but its cheaper to stay there for weekend  ;D
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